Chapter 46: Possibly A Plan

“To declare an assertion of the People untrue is unlawful, even if it was retroactively asserted by vote to be untrue, at which point referring to it as either true or untrue is equally unlawful.”
– Bellerophan formal codex of laws, circa 1321 A.D.

The transparent bubble around me was solid, as I found out with a swift strike of what must have been at least my fifteenth sword of the day. I was pretty sure the one made out of goblin steel was still with the Spellblade, since I’d never actually picked it up. Over the span of a single heartbeat the Praesi delegation’s entire body language had shifted. Where before the illusion had been the centre of their attention, they now all faced the taller of the two men wearing ceremonial armour. I’d expected another illusion to break and Malicia’s flesh puppet to be revealed but then the stranger smiled and I realized I was already looking at it. Shit, she’d never said she was limited to using women as puppets had she?

“Catherine,” the Empress greeted me in a pleasant baritone. “You’ve made quite the entrance.”

I coughed.

“Would you believe I was just cleaning my sword and my hand slipped?” I tried.

Not so much as a twitch from anyone. Tough crowd.

“Worth a shot,” I shrugged.

“So much for the cunning Black Queen,” a robe-clad man sneered.

From the voice, it was the one called Galadan. His interlocutor had pointedly not used a noble titled when bickering with him, so odds were he was just a talented practitioner snatched young and groomed by one of the powerful houses.

“Galadan, was it?” I said slowly, lips quirking as the name echoed with the taste of Winter. “I’ll remember that.”

There were days where my reputation was like a stone around my neck, making what should have been the simplest matters a brutal grind where my best intentions were turned to dross no matter what I tried. But there were days, as well, where the balance swung the other way. I was standing alone and surrounded, bound by a ward I’d wager had been crafted specifically to deal with me, and I had nothing left to bare at the man but teeth. Galadan still flinched. Malicia chuckled lightly at the sight.

“One does not lightly taunt a tiger, even caged,” she chided her subordinate. “There is no need for uncouthness, Queen in Callow. Threats this early in the conversation strike me as in poor taste.”

I should go alone with the beat, of course, dance that highborn dance of manners and double-speak and bladed implications. But we’d done that for a year now, the both of us, and the more I learned about what she’d been up all the whole to the more I realized how deeply I’d been played. She’d let me bleed my kingdom, my armies, my people against her enemies while she plotted to unleash the Dead King. I would not condemn her for desperation, not when it had driven me to the same madness, but there had been calculation behind her despair. She would let the demon out of the box only when Callow had seen the wilfulness beaten out of it by the Tenth Crusade, and not a moment before. It’d make me a hypocrite to talk about the wickedness of making pact with the Hidden Horror, but I was not unreasonable in the fury I felt at the knowledge that she’d intended to bleed me out for her advantage.

I spat to the side.

“You know me,” I grinned toothily. “Proper savage, I am. That’s how they raise us in the provinces.”

Malicia sighed.

“There is no need for such antagonism,” she said. “You have attempted to murder me, certainly, but that is a small thing. Expected, in many ways. We had a confluence of interests at the last hour of Liesse, and may have one currently as well. It is neither of us that most benefits from this squabble.”

“You funded Liesse,” I replied calmly. “Enabled it. You were, to use that most damning word, complicit.”

“And yet,” the Dread Empress of Praes said, “when presented with the finished weapon you agreed with me on the necessity of its existence. Our present situation is not so different.”

I had come to regret it, over the months that followed that nightmare, that I had even for a moment agreed with Malicia. That I’d been able to set aside the pile of bodies the doomsday fortress had been raised from for the golden lie of the peace it might be able to force. I’d often thought of pragmatism as the highest of all virtues, since I’d become the Squire. So many time I’d crossed blades with heroes and villains who were so wrapped up in what they might be able to make of the world that they were unwilling to face the reality of what it was. But I’d learned. It was a virtue, when properly used, but to embrace it at the exclusion of all else was to become Black. Cunning, victorious and brutally efficient. Dead inside too, though, more means than man. The kind of person that brought only ruin wherever they went.

“And so the devil complains the other devil is tricking us both,” I laughed. “Quite the assertion, when you’ve already escalated the offer beyond what either of us can afford.”

“The Principate is an existential threat to us both,” the Empress said. “That is fact, not speculation. So long as Procer is not dismantled, even victory tomorrow would only result in the same war erupting anew in twenty years. You are quite aware of this, or you would not have requested signatory status with the Grand Alliance.”

“Hasenbach isn’t the one whose ships are burning your coasts,” I pointed out. “And Levant’s on the march. Bit more to this than the First Prince having a go at the East.”

“Ashur will seek separate peace the moment the Grand Alliance collapses,” Malicia patiently said. “It will be costly to settle, but the Empire is the wealthiest it has been in several generations. The Dominion is willing to fight under the cross, but to defend Procer? Even if they are cajoled into it and somehow manage victory, they will have no stomach for pressing with another war after turning back the Dead King.”

“It’s an interesting sell that you’re making between the lines,” I noted. “Instead of your shield protecting the western flank with the Principate, you’re trying to talk me into being the same for your western flank with the Dead King. What a favour you’re granting me. I have to praise the audacity, if nothing else.”

“Let us not quibble over details,” Malicia flatly said. “You meant to release him yourself. If betrayal in the terms is your worry, I am willing to grant you the right to read the final treaties and sit at the signing.”

“I meant to loose him only on the northernmost edges of Procer,” I sharply replied. “Where the damage inflicted could be kept to a strict minimum and he’d have to defend narrow beachheads against the entire Tenth Crusade. You, on the other hand, are handing him almost a third of the continent’s most densely populated farmland on a silver platter. I don’t care how good your binding oaths are, if he manages to swallow that big a prize the rest of Calernia is fucked. Including me, including you. You can’t possibly be so desperate you can’t see that.”

“There is quite the difference between recognizing someone’s rights to territory and the other party being able to seize it,” the Empress said. “Some principalities will fall, I expect. Not enough. And what remains of Procer will be embroiled in permanent bloody warfare to the north, a grind on the resources of both participants.”

“See, I would have bought that before I saw Keter with my own eyes,” I told her. “Saw the kind of tools the Dead King has at his disposal. I’m telling you, and Gods I would love it if you actually took me to my word for once, he has a fucking legion of monsters to unleash. He’s been sitting pretty on this for millennia, Malicia, picking up every strong Named he came across and adding them to his arsenal. Procer can barely handle me, and that’s with the hand of the Heavens so far up their asses you can see the fingers wiggling between the teeth. They are not capable of handling what he’ll send marching.”

“Evil,” the Empress replied serenely, “does not win wars. That is a law of nature, true as sunrise or the moving of the tides. You have inherited Amadeus’ most dangerous delusion in believing otherwise. He could empty all the Howling Hells and it would not matter one bit. The only way to eke out a victory, Catherine, is not to fight.”

“And how’s that been working out for you?” I harshly asked.

“My armies are intact,” Malicia smiled. “I have avoided loss of any significant industry or resources and maintained my hold on all my core territories. Your need to war with every foe in sight, on the other hand, has broken your only host, brought several outlying regions of Callow to the brink of rebellion and left you exceedingly vulnerable to attack from every single other state on the continent.”

“You know,” I mused, “we usually get that speech from the west instead of the east. Oh, Callow’s on fire but my lands are fine. You must be a bunch of blunderers. Forgetting, of course, that the only reason the princes of Procer aren’t bickering over who gets the nicer parts of your fucking capital is that my people bled at the borders to drive them back.”

“You expect my sympathy for the costs of defending your own lands?” the Empress said, tone mildly sardonic.

“You know,” I said, “that’s fair. It really is. It’s not like my armies gives a damn about the Wasteland. But then you don’t get to parade the success of your masterful ‘strategy’ either, Malicia, when the only thing that makes it work is that my kingdom’s in the way of an invasion. You haven’t played everyone like a fiddle. You didn’t raise a godsdamned hand even when the Ashurans started sacking your cities.  All you did was read a fucking map and take a bet on human nature.”

She laughed in my face, an older man’s rich and riotous laughter.

“Indeed, I truly am a fool for having achieved all my desired outcomes without any true cost to myself,” she said. “However will I live this down?”

“No cost?” I said. “Oh, I wouldn’t say that. Your little episode in Liesse cost you quite a bit, didn’t it? More than half the Legions. Your finest generals, and probably the person dearest to you in the world. All of Callow, too. How’s it feel, Alaya, to join the roster of empresses who pissed away a kingdom out of pride?”

The flesh puppet turned dark eyes on me.

“One of your better attempts,” she noted. “Given two or three decades, you might survive a month at court without someone cleaning up behind you. Evidently, you are disinclined to cooperate even when it is to our common advantage. Let us part ways, then.”

I went for Winter again. Still just out of the reach of my fingertips. The harder I set my will to it, though, the more I felt like there might be some give. Was the ward pitting willpower against willpower? There were four warlocks keeping this going that I could see, and Wasteland mages were taught from the cradle that Creation was theirs to master. That didn’t breed weak wills, though sometimes brittle ones. I might be able to pull that off, given long enough, but it wasn’t a certainty. And I’d be up to my neck in Sentinels before then. I shifted my stance, wrist slowly rotating as I flicked the last of the blood off my sword.

“This the part where you have your little toy soldiers try me?” I casually said. “Should be interesting to see if they can kill me.”

“You are a skilled swordswoman,” a Taghreb mage snorted. “Yet not so skilled as that.”

“You mistake me,” I smiled. “Even if your pack of silent hounds hacks me to pieces, will I actually die?”

That gave them pause.

“Lost half my face and torso, not even an hour ago,” I said. “A Named elf did that with one of the dangerous aspects I’ve ever seen. You think you can swing harder than that? I’m genuinely curious, what do you have to throw at me that’ll keep me down for the count?”

“Cold iron,” Galadan hissed.

I snorted.

“That’s cute,” I said. “My own crown is made of that, you mouthy second-rater. But, Hells, give it a shot. It’s not like my way to the throne hasn’t been paved by the bodies of Wastelanders who just knew they had my number.”

I straightened, gaze sweeping across the Praesi delegation.

“Well, ladies and gentlemen,” I said with a savage grin, “which brave soul wants to be the first example I make today?”

Silence was my answer, and when I inhaled the fear that had swelled up under their calm faces I could not be sure whether it was me or Winter that delighted in it. The spell was broken by a slow clap. Malicia’s simulacrum was smiling.

“You truly do have a talent for this,” she said. “Beyond even what you were taught. Still, you have ever been slow to learn. Did I not tell you, Catherine? To win, it is best not to fight at all.”

The puppet glanced at her subordinates.

“The ward anchors will remain here,” she said. “The rest of us will proceed to the Hall of the Dead and resume negotiation.”

The man’s face turned to me, and inclined Malicia inclined his head by a fraction.

“A good day to you, Black Queen,” she said. “May you survive the consequences of what you have wrought.”

The smiled turned mirthless.

“After all,” she finished, “I still have a use for you.”

Oooh, that’d been cold. Had to grant her the due for that, and I knew cold better than most. I gathered my will and smashed it against the ward like a hammer, but the give wasn’t nearly strong enough. If she managed to get out of here, this was done. And like she’d said, Neshamah would be displeased. Or perhaps disappointed, which seemed like a much more dangerous state of affairs. I couldn’t reach my mantle, and the bubble might as well have been stone. Stone before I’d gotten said mantle, anyway, it was a lot less trouble these days. I still had knives up my sleeves, thanks to Pickler’s cunning little contraptions, but if my sword couldn’t cut it against the bubble neither would they. The Praesi gathered to move out, the Sentinels making a protective ring around the remaining delegates and the Empress. My fingers clenched. I had no weapon, no power that would work until it was too late. Well, except my fucking ‘invisible crossbow’, thank you Past Catherine. Wait, yes, my invisible crossbow. I didn’t physically have one – I’d checked earlier, patted myself down – but it might be a metaphor. Or maybe the sight of me making an ass of myself was a signal for Archer to start shooting, which seemed a lot more likely.

“I wouldn’t do that, if I were you,” I called out.

The Empress turned.

“And why is that?” she said.

Ah, humouring me. Nearly always a mistake.

“I’ll have to kill you with my secret weapon,” I replied.

“Is that so?” she said.

“Evidently,” I drawled, “you are disinclined to cooperate. Let us part ways, then.”

I brought up my invisible crossbow and fired it right into her throat.

At which point nothing happened.

“I was expecting the Archer to ambush us,” Malicia said after a moment.

“Wards prepared?” I asked.

“Several,” she replied.

“The plan had a few kinks to work out,” I admitted.

If I’d been more prone to assigning sentimentality to the Empress , I would have believed her to be somewhat embarrassed on my behalf. Well, it’d make two of us. At least years of Indrani’s company had more or less made me immune to shame and public embarrassment. Mercifully, the Dread Empress of Praes set out again without taking a moment out of her day to mock me. All right then, back to forcing my way through the ward and then having a spot of diplomatic murder. I pressed my will against the bubble again, and kept the pressure up. I was gaining ground, inch by inch, but it was taking too godsdamned long.

The arrow took Galadan right in the knee.

The mage fell with a scream as my eyes widened in surprise. Had there been some sort of protective enchantment on him, like there’d been on the Exiled Prince? Why else would Archer aim for the knee? Unless…

“Oh, fucking Hells,” I sighed. “She’s drunk, isn’t she?”

Had she seriously been so wasted she’d missed both the signal and her mark? Gods, I didn’t even know Named could get that drunk.

“Fighting retreat,” Malicia ordered, tone perfectly even.

“Archer,” I yelled. “The mages around me. Ignore the Empress.”

I found fear in the eye of the warlock closest to me when I met them, and redoubled my efforts to break through. Except that no other arrow came. Was this a plan of some sort? Befuddlement distracted me long enough I lost a few inches to the mages, and I threw myself back into it with gritted teeth. She and I would have a talk about this, when – the second arrow clipped the shoulder of a mage to the side of the bubble, drawing blood and a scream but nothing else. I gained back the inches I’d lost, but that was all. Gods, how drunk was she? No, she’d have burned it out of her body by now with her Name. Indrani might capricious, but she was also incredibly vain about her marksmanship. After missing her first shot she’d have sobered herself up. I came to the conclusion a heartbeat before the Empress announced it out loud to her escorts. This had never been Archer. This was Thief who’d stolen a bow and arrows at some point, and the shots were missing because no one had ever taught her to use the godsdamned thing properly.

“Thief, just stab the bastards,” I yelled angrily.

Her ruse – passing for Archer – had slowed down the Praesi advance some but not nearly enough. She should have gone for the mages since the start, though charitably I’d assume she’d been trying to make time for me to break out of the bubble. I slammed my will against the ward, to no avail. This was infuriating. If I’d still had an aspect I could have ripped through that like wet parchment. But with the mantle’s power had come the mantle’s weaknesses. Although, I’d learned necromancy when I was still… No, my tie to Zombie still existed but it was muted. I couldn’t control her through it. Neither could I summon the arguably more dangerous dead thing at my beck and call, Akua Sahelian. It was like the bubble was shutting me out of Winter and essentially everything outside of the bubble itself. I was pretty sure I could still manipulate what was in here, but my body couldn’t shift without Winter to handle the changes and, and I still had a bit of Winter in here didn’t I? I glanced down at my sword. I’d gone through over a dozen of those fighting the Skein, just making another one out of ice every time the last one shattered. It’d become so natural I barely ever thought of it anymore. I grimaced. Didn’t really help, though. I could make an ice javelin out of that, but that was no better than a sword and I doubted anything aside from my domain would put a hole in the ward.

Thief flickered into sight, stabbing into the back of the man whose eyes I’d met earlier, but even though she drew blood a streak of lighting caught her in the side and smashed her to the ground. An illusion broke, and a fifth spellcaster flicked her wrist as she whispered in the mage tongue. The lightning kept roiling and Vivienne screamed as she twisted on the ground.

“Flee,” I hissed. “Go.”

Except she couldn’t, and I didn’t have the tools to… My fingers clenched. I gathered my will, sent it into my sword and broke it apart. I ripped from the ice the stuff of Winter, and from it wove one of the few things that never left my body. A small dark whistle, pulsing with power not my own. Power I’d stolen from a hated foe. Bringing it to my cold lips, I blew out and the power vanished. It broke into fine powder. Not a sound had been made. It wasn’t that kind of whistle. It wasn’t that kind of call.

“She’s summoning something,” the sorceress that still poured lightning into Vivienne called out.

“We need every single one of us,” the man who’d been stabbed replied in Mtethwa. “She’s a monster.”

The blade went through the back of his head, coming out of his month in a downpour of blood. Larat clicked his tongue disapprovingly.

“Now now, man-thing,” he chided. “That’s just no way to speak about your superiors.”

The rest of the Wild Hunt tore out of Arcadia behind him, and with a wild scream I finally shattered the ward. Finally.

My turn.

120 thoughts on “Chapter 46: Possibly A Plan

  1. “To declare an assertion of the People untrue is unlawful, even if it was retroactively asserted by vote to be untrue, at which point referring to it as either true or untrue is equally unlawful.”
    – Bellerophan formal codex of laws, circa 1321 A.D.

    And if you declare the assertion a monumental screw-up?

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    • Obviously, the only thing that is untrue and true at the same time, is something that does not exist nor ever existed. Therefore, if an assertion of People was later asserted as untrue, such assertion never took place. Honestly, do you need me to spell this out for you?

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    • I wonder, just how much intervention from the Gods has it taken to keep Bellerophon from collapsing under the weight of its absurdity? Surely it hasn’t been human hands keeping it running…

      Heck, it’s probably been a cooperative venture from the gods both Above and Below, so that they have something to laugh at when they’re not busy scheming or arguing.

      …Or maybe the Gods Below have wasted all of their power on keeping their clown show going, and that’s why Villains always seem like they’re at a disadvantage everywhere else in the continent.

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      • To assert that Gloruous Respublic of Bellerophon can’t exist without metaphysical crutches is both treason and Filthy Lies of Petty Tyrants, which is also treason. Now you may argue that since you are not citizen of Bellerophon and can’t possibly commit treason against it. Wrong again!

        Besides, Gods Below are citizens of Bellerophon, it’s just good and proper to keep their homelajd from collapsing, even if it’s completely unnecessary and the other way around besides.

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    • don’t be so silly. they would simply make new legislation proving the exact same point, only for the original ruling to be dug up about 2 centuries later to contridict the “new” law.

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    • You can’t declare the assertion at all. Everyone who cast a vote on it is dead anyway. The first group for voting incorrectly and the second group for unlawfully contradicting the first.

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      • You know it occurs to me that all Vader’s machine parts were crutches against the injuries that Obi-Wan himself had inflicted while trying to kill the boy.

        What I’m saying is that Obi-Wan is kind of a dick.

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        • I doubt the Skein is permanently gone; he should be trapped in that pocket dimension, but if we’re assuming Neshamah created that dimension in the first place then I wouldn’t be surprised if – with time – he could fix it and retrieve the Skein.

          Or even if he can’t fix it, at least pull the Skein out of it.

          If he can’t do either of those, it’d probably say more about the power of Masego’s new aspect than anything else.

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  2. I love the irony of Malicia talking about the only way to win being not to play, and all about avoiding stories and shit, and she literally surrounded one person in a cage, got into a discussion with her, and then left dramatically declaring that the person in the cage still had use.

    Fucking hell that’s amazing. You have to genuinely put yourself at a disadvantage to win. You can’t win the first round, because then you’re just set up to lose the last. And Cat seems to have either embraced the chaos, or hasn’t learned and is just bumbling her way through the Stories like that.

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        • Yep, that’s my take too. Her strengths *story-wise* appear to have been until recently “listening to and working with Black” and, “avoiding the apparent Dread Empress-induced drive to crazytown”. She’s lost both those relatively recently. Maybe it was her name, maybe the decades of wrangling the metaphorical rabid velociraptors of the Wasteland nobility as acting-Chancellor while living in The Tower, or maybe just the thumb of the Heavens on the scales, but they’re gone now.

          Black (or even Catherine if motivated and a little lucky) could probably story-fu her back to stability, but she’s not going to let them. Instead, she’s going to be the consummate devious politician… who pursues flying demon-gate superweapons and makes deals with the Dead King. She’s setting herself up for a climactic second act “Haha! All my machinations are working perfectly! Everyone but me is in disarray! Ahahaha!” which only ends one way in this universe.

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      • That’s less of an opinion, more of a fact. She just monologued at a beaten opponent, gloated about her victory, and instead of finishing them off just left them unattended for a daring rescue. It’s like watching someone stab herself in the foot with her gun.

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    • She’s also gloating about unleashing a monster while the hero warns her that she doesn’t know what she’s doing, which is right up there with “consuming an energy field bigger than your head” in terms of villain fails.

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      • I mean, calling Cat a hero here is definitely a bit of a stretch; she doesn’t have a Story backing her actions (which consist of arson, attempted murder, and arguably jaywalking into another palace against a nominal ally) so that she could make a pact with the lord of undeath. The hero card is very very far behind in this scene.

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        • Well you are right but what catherine said was more like a hero lines and she is more fae than villain it’s a difference after all in arcadia she declared herself a hero while fighting one of the fae and it kinda worked (partialy but it did).

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            • It honestly piss me off… Whenever she gets a power up there shows something ridiculus like saint of swords or skein I like the stories about the underdog but she shouldn’t get any power up or be like a proper villain but nooooo Cat always is the uderpowered one she is a fucking queen of winter it;s frustrating.

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              • It’s cause she deliberately doesn’t go full out on power, similar to how Black doesn’t go full out on his Aspects. She knows there’s power in being the underdog, and loss of power in maxing power, so she holds back on the Fae powers as much as possible, like she held back on Aspects

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    • I don’t see that. I saw that even with Thief’s help, she couldn’t break out… until she remembered the whistle (which I personally had forgotten she had).

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    • I still don’t see how it makes sense, personally, that Cat, for all of her power, has a weakness to Wards. None of the bloody Fey seemed to have that weakness before or, if they did, none of the mages in Cat’s army ever tried using it. More over it seems to be strong enough to CAGE a Fey Monarch. HOW?

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      • Well, the whole point of Akua having advantage against the Fae was that diabolists and Praesi mages in general are capable of slapping together a ward on the fly. Compare that to, say, Hedge Wizard, who had knoledge of nearly all branches of magic on the level of an average non-Praesi practitioner and still told Hanno that she didn’t want to risk a miscalculation while building a ward.
        Add to that the fact that Liesse had wards strong enough it took the Princess of High Noon to dent them, that the revolving wards made most fairies (and Cat) get stuck in a loop of hitting them and getting hit back, and you’ll see that it’s been established pretty well.

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        • And yet here we are with something stronger then the Princess of High Noon and wards weaker then what the Hedge Wizard has (Named are always better then not, even if their ‘story’ is that they know a lot of weaker magic) but somehow, though the Winter Queen is something no one has ever seen before, they made wards perfectly suited to stopping her. Where as the Princess of High Noon was able to take down Liesse’s walls which, if I remember correctly (I may actually not, it’s been a while since I’ve reread the story), had pretty ancient and powerful wards in their walls or at the very least wards created by another named and countless other mages (because army) and it only slowed her down in the end, or would have at any rate.

          There is a clear disparity in how much the wards are affecting Cat and the question remains that if they were this strong why had the Apprentice, a powerful named mage, never created a ward to deal with them. Even if it was a transitional mage he showed himself to be the equal of Akua at almost every turn, if perhaps lacking in certain secrets her family had (though probably not as many as one would think given Warlocks desire for knowledge). If this is because Cat is still holding back somehow then that’s fine, because she’s basically limited herself in almost painful ways given she’s actually meant to be stronger then any of the Princes or Princesses we’ve seen before (We have never seen her fight at a level over the Duchess of Moonlight night save for in very specific, massive brute force workings or when Akua was piloting her so that is really the only way this works. Though you’d think fighting wards would be a matter of brute force given how they describe how she does it so even that doesn’t work on close scrutiny.)

          But if this is a weakness all Fey are supposed to have, even the high and mighty ones, then it’s inconsistent with how Cat dealt with them in the war having the Apprentice at her disposal and yes, even how Akua dealt with them, since the supposed specialist of wards did jack all against ranks Princess and up with wards alone (she beat the princess but she didn’t do it by trapping her in a ward bubble).

          Given how remarkably consistent a lot of this magical world is this seems like a very strange thing to have crop up. By the reasoning the story is now presenting the apprentice could have ‘caged’ a bunch of tigers. Even if he was doing it to only one or two a battle then he could have still locked down Prince and Duke level fellows, at the very least, and probably the King and Queens too, since you can’t tell me the apprentice wasn’t a match for four random wasteland cannon fodder mages. But the apprentice, arguably Akua’s equal or better in magic, and far superior then these NPC’s Cat’s facing right now, never even thought of it?

          The only other explanation is that Cat believes wards are a bigger deal then they are and is hamstringing herself out of stupidity and a lack of care to ask Hierophant how to fight them and thus learn that she doesn’t need to. Because otherwise the Apprentice, who would have totally been on board for dissecting a Fey, never once thought to capture a few of them during battles, particularly not the stronger ones, and Thiefs whole ‘steal the sun’ gambit wouldn’t have even been necessary because apparently you can pop a ward any old place.

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          • My read was that this ward was made to exploit a weakness unique to Cat. She’s still, to some extent, a human mind holding Winter (that is, avoiding Principle Alienation). Normally this isn’t a problem because she can just draw on more power, but unlike a normal Fae it means she can be cut off from her Mantle.

            Alternately, there are tricks the other Fae have learned such as seeking weak points in wards that Cat simply lacks the magical knowledge to perform.

            But my bet is on separating the Mantle being a unique weakness. Once you do that you aren’t fighting the whole of Winter, just a relatively easily contained fragment of it.

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          • Have you considered that Cat is not the Queen of Winter in the Fae sense? She is the Queen, and she is of Winter, but as far as Fae titles go, she’s still “only” Duchess of Moonless Nights. Being the last remaining noble of Winter doesn’t automatically make her Hells know how powerful. She’s nowhere as strong as Sulia at the height of power.

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            • Didn’t Larat address her as the Queen of Air and Darkness?

              “We swear to your service, Queen of the Hunt,” the fae said. “Queen of Air and Darkness, Sovereign of Moonless Nights. We swear ‘til the day of last ruin, ‘til all debts are paid. We would ride beneath your banner, in this world and every other.”

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              • What Larat says is irrelevant. Cat fights on the level of the Duchess of Moonless Nights because she is on the level of Duchess of Moonless Nights. She didn’t suddenly become exponentially more powerful upon becoming the last noble of Winter. I’m pretty sure she would know it if she did.

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                • Uh, Ran, that is quite literally *exactly* what happened. It was stated pretty clearly that she did, in fact, become exponentially more powerful when she became the last Noble of Winter – that was why the first attempt to keep her power in check when her heart was returned failed far faster than expected.

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                  • Ok, so the amount of collective power in Arcadia effectively doubled, because it’s only logical for the United Fae Court to be as powerful as Winter and Summer combined, and they couldn’t take Winter with them because Winter belongs to Cat. And if they couldn’t take Winter, logically they couldn’t take Summer as well. That means they had to create an entirely new power from nothing.

                    Anyway, even if Cat actually is as powerful as the King of Winter and more, the Principle Alienation ensures she can never ever use this power in full, so she’s effectively not.

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                    • 1. Right, but that means we’re talking about a point I covered, ie ‘Cat is hamstringing herself to keep her mortal mind’. That is fine. But then how does everyone else KNOW that she’s doing it, then? Why would they think someone with her power even capable of being caged by a ward?

                      2. We know she’s stronger by a looooot compared to what she used to be be. She’s done much, much harder, much more brutal and much more powerful workings on par with the Princess and even the Queen, at least in terms of raw power. With a little bit of guidance from the Hierophant she killed thousands of soldiers in a single attack. Hierophant did nothing but aim that bad boy, it was her doing it. And while she didn’t use something like a Sun to do it she still did it and it took the fricking lazers of light to stop her.

                      We know she’s not tapping into the full breadth of that power because she also explicitly says that. But how does Malicia know Cat survived the process? Or is Malicia under the mistaken belief that Cat is still a Duchess ranked fey, despite having the Wild Hunt at her service? Someone is making a mistake in judgement here for this ward prison to even be possible OR a bunch of someones made mistakes in the past when they never thought to try it.

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                    • Just realized you were being sarcastic. Thought it was strange wording but I had seen stranger so sorry there for not seeing it before.

                      The fact of the matter is we don’t know what happened to the Fey Courts after everything. We haven’t been told if they’re just as strong as they used to be or not. We can probably assume they are but the fact of the matter is that we do know that Cat has all of Winter (yes, all of it, it has been explicitly stated), and that much like Names on the mortal realm, Winter Means Something (or meant something) and because it Meant Something, the way Names like Black Knight Mean Something, it has power.

                      We also know that Winter Means Something in a Big Way because of what we’ve heard them say and what we’ve seen Cat do. It is explicitly shown that she is much more powerful then she was as a duchess. She didn’t simply get the title Queen because she was the last noble left, she also got a loooot of power that comes with the throne. Think of it like a Name. It’s not coming from no where, it’s coming from a culture that used to Fear Winter for the cold nights that could kill it, still reveries it as an ever immutable fact of the world that can claim lives on a whim, still writes poetry of it for the beauty it holds on quiet moonlit nights and dark stories about monsters shrouded in shadows of moonless nights.

                      That is Winter. Winter is a Name with so many more Stories then a mortal Name could ever hold that those who gain that Name lose themselves in it more fully and become Something Else. Cat is Winter. Cat is all of those stories. Cat is relentless Blizzards and Cat is the single, perfect snowflake that is the first snowfall of the year. Cat is everything in between the beginning and end of Winter as well. You think there are a lot of stories of Black Knights? There are millions, if not billions, more of Winter, and Winter is hardly constrained to a few nations and cultures the way Knights are. And those stories create power the same way a culture creates power in names.

                      It is very likely that if the Fey Monarchs are as strong as they were then they are tapping into a new story. Perhaps something about immortal gods, like the Greek Gods, or perhaps something like the Tuatha Dé Danann, immortal sidhe lords. They were already like the latter in a way so it’s not so far of a stretch to assume they’re going that route. But in the end that means they’re tapping into a different vein of power, a different story. Which makes sense since we explicitly know and have been told… Winter is no longer Winter. The Winter King is no longer Winter. Cat is Winter. Which means the Winter King and the Summer Queen are probably something else altogether now, divested of their warring courts and their warring nature’s.

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                    • Well, except as far as we know, Cat didn’t receive the title of the Queen of Winter at all, although titles kind of stop mattering when you’re the only one eligible. And even if she did get the entirety of Winter at her disposal (which is leagues above the power the King of Winter used to have and would make her able to obliterate half the continent in a heartbeat, at least), this power remains inaccessible to her, and inaccessible power = no power. Also, she didn’t actually do anything special at the Battle of the Camps – she just made a big gate and let the gravity do the rest.

                      Although I must admit, I never thought about Winter the way you described it here. Incidentally, it makes all the clamor in the comments about Cat getting a new Name somewhat ridiculous. Why would she need a new Name when she has something greater than any Name can ever hope to be?

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                    • You are not wrong about the power she has and how little it matters if she can’t use it, but at the very least we know one thing. She does have the Authority to name others in Winter’s domain dukes and such. We’ve heard it mentioned before as ‘handing out titles’, a nuclear option she doesn’t want to resort to because it puts a huuuuge target on her back and creates a lot more wheeling and dealing Fey that could challenge her. (That second one is my guess, at least.)

                      She has ALL of Winter but that doesn’t necessarily mean she has access to it all. The king himself never seemed diminished by the lack of the other titles so it’s more likely that she can’t touch them while representing Winter as Queen, accessing another the stories those titles represent. It still means she’s about on par in terms of Raw Power as the King, even if she can’t use it all without losing herself. As far as the Gate was concerned you might want to check every Named and their reactions to that. The ‘BFG’ or ‘Big Fricking Gate’ as I’d like it called, if I were lucky enough to make such a joke relevant, was something even the Pilgrim had been caught off guard by and he’s basically Gandalf. When you surprise Gandalf, you be crazy, and what she did was an extremely powerful working. You mistake how she did it for ‘easy’ when in truth she was doing something ‘smart’. Rather then spend ALL of her power simply conjuring that much water she decided to just get it elsewhere.

                      (SPOILERS to Wheel of Time)
                      One of my favorite parts of the Wheel of Time books was when a character with similar magics started opening gates inside volcanos to pour on enemies.
                      (UNSPOILERS)

                      Same effect, far less energy required, allowing her to do even more and worse (Such as get up a bit later being piloted by Akua, raise an entire legion of undead and then face down some pretty powerful ass heroes). There’s no doubt in my mind she has the Kings power. What she seems to lack is the ability to use it freely and the control and experience he had using it.

                      One final point. Giving her a new name, at least in my mind, isn’t so much about giving her more power. At least for me I kind of want one for her to give her character a bit more direction and distinction. The problem with Winter is not only that it’s a power unimaginable unable to be touched and earning her enemies in that weight class… But it’s also vague. It’s power is infinite but so defuse, spread across so many stories, that Winter Queen is really… It’s cool, but squire had more flavor, Black Queen had more personal meaning and another name would allow us to see growth in a more distinct sense. She’s learning to use her powers all the time in this clusterfrick of a plan but it feels way less impactful then her earning an Aspect and then learning how to use it in New ways. A title that doesn’t have much, or any power, would be interesting for her to have.

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                    • Just to clarify, I never said nor thought what she did at the Battle of the Camps was “easy”. I only said it was an upscaled version of what she’s been doing all the time up to that point. It certainly required a far greater power than opening a normal gate, but also far less power than she could have poured into it. That she managed to do something that grand in scale with relatively little energy investment is what makes it so impressive, in my opinion.

                      Alas, for want of a counterpoint for your argument regarding titles, I am forced to reluctantly withdraw from my position on the matter of Cat being a titular Queen of Winter. You win. Rejoice.

                      I still don’t believe she’s as strong as the King of Winter, though.

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                  • Though many glossed over this tidbit but EE did imply Malicia is a mage.

                    In his comment regarding catherine learning magic way back in Book 1 he said that no matter how much Cat calls on a magical aspect she’d never be able to do what Warlock or Malicia could do on an off day.

                    It’s entirely plausible Malicia, being Named, crafted said ward and taught and drilled her personal warlocks how to cast the spell which is why the spell wasn’t binding: the pleb mages didn’t have the skill and/or power to make Cat truly powerless as Malicia or Warlock would have been able to.

                    Or, more plausbily,
                    Warlock taught her the ward seeing as he also has no love for Catherine and after their standoff over Nauk’s body, I’d bet an aspect he has some really nasty wards in reserve for when he and Cat butt heads again.

                    Remember few people could derive Einstein’s theory of relativity from first principles but a lot of people with a maths and physics background can use said equations so I think its reasonable to assume that the same can be said here.

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                    • This is a fascinating possibility that I actually like quite a bit. Would be exactly like the prick and he is still buddy-buddy with Malicia. A possible third theory! I love it.

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          • I think you need to read again. Masego DID put several noble fae in wards, especially durable ones so he could discover from they what summer plans were. And when Thief stole the sun he had just had his ward broken, after making it on the go and STILL holding down the princess, also known for having the highest direct power from all non queen/king fae. Yes, it has been shown to be a massive weakness of this species, so much so that they couldn’t bring nobles to attack inside the city when it all began, only the weaker ones could pass through, which seems to imply the stronger you are, the harder this hits. But also you must consider that, when at Arcadia, it wasn’t only their own power being used, every titled fae could draw a part of reality itself to his aid, while the queen and the king could draw fully half of creation, becoming gods, if minor ones. Cat can’t draw from reality around her, and more than that, there is no more Winter besides her. Even IF she is to be as strong as a Fae Queen, she is still severely limited in her power, besides the fact Winter got separated from her, something that would never happen with a true fae.

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            • So your logic boils down to the same as the others, a matter of raw power and how much of it Cat has. I agree that it’s a possibility but I disagree that Cat doesn’t have access to the power of a Fey Monarch. I think it much more likely she does, if she were to relent to winter. It is very possible Cat as of now can only call upon that raw power in controlled circumstances, or with Akua’s aid, but we know she can. She killed Thousands in a single stroke with only a little bit of help aiming from the Heirophant and then when Akua was driving her she flash froze a lake.

              Neither of those things were possible as a duchess level fey. Even doing something a hundredth or a thousandth that size tired her out. And flash freezing a lake of that size? That takes some serious energy (I mean from a purely scientific point of view. This story doesn’t hold to science but it does hold to general idea that magic takes energy and notable magical feats are plenty and regular enough for us to divine Cat is basically a fricking nuclear bomb compared to the bip lighters that are most mages.

              That she can’t touch it is a possibility, not without relenting to winter or with a lot of help, but the idea that she can be separated from winter doesn’t make sense either anymore. She IS winter. She is made of it. If they cut her off from it she would have ceased being. More then likely this is a result of her being split and still carrying around a mortal mind but then that begs the question of how Malicia knows that’s a problem of hers and why she’d think she could contain a Monarch level Fey with four NPC mages. The story seems to hint that Malicia doesn’t know Cat is the Queen of Winter with one of the idiot NPC’s calling her the Black Queen, still, but how stupid does Malicia have to be to not know that given that it’s been MONTHS and she’s done crazy things like drop Lakes on armies? So how does Malicia know she can’t tap into the full breadth of that? Or has the story been pulling one over on us, convincing us that Cat is holding back when she’s actually not, and is barely more powerful then before?

              The problem with the idea that Cat can be trapped by wards is that, if you are right and it did happen often enough in the story during the war, it still failed against a Princess, something Cat is at least as strong as, and was done by Apprentice, something these NPC mages are not. If she doesn’t have that kind of power because she can’t tap into it, fine, but how does Malicia know she doesn’t and why does she think this ward would work? For all Malicia knows Cat is actually Winter incarnate pretending to be Cat ready to ride high and rip her apart for annoying her, which means this ward was a stupid trap, a desperate gamble that seems out of character for her.

              For this to work Cat cannot tap into even a tenth of her true might (to be held by NPC mages instead of someone on Apprentices level), Malicia has to KNOW that Cat can’t tap into that power despite evidence to the contrary (thousands dead, lake flash frozen, etc) and Cat is basically doubly crippled for not being able to throw around her power in the weight class she is actually in and also have a severe, unmitigated weakness to wards any two bit no names can throw up. (The story can say they’re the Wastelands best all they want but the story also goes into great pains to detail what she’s done with the Wastelands best in the past. Remember Liesse? Cat sure seems to forget how she mowed down dozens of mages like this on her search for an entrance to Diabolists lair.)

              And this is all possible but we have seen hints to the contrary for several of these things. Cat can’t do much in the way of complicated Winter Workings or reality warping but she has been able to, at times, throw a punch like she’s a Queen of the Fey, fight someone of a standard near, if not actually at, Ranger’s level, and bend reality to her whim (slightly) by realizing there is no spoon and turning into mist for short times. Meanwhile Malicia here was more then happy to out who she was sitting inside like a meat suit before she was certain Cat wasn’t really toying with her and pretending to be trapped, suggesting she was confident in the Wards as an option without testing empirically.

              This could boil down to Malicia being that green when it comes to actual adventuring (she taunted the tiger, left it alive like a bond villain and is about to pay the price after all), Cat still hamstringing herself (because she can never not be her own worst enemy) and these NPC mages somehow really being good enough to stand up to something far stronger then a duke (she may not be able to match princess while holding back but she’s leagues about what she was, all the same) but until the story says it these questions stand. And here is a good opportunity to get that answer. Hieorphant should have probably figured it out already but he’s oblivious to how ignorant Cat is sometimes where as Larat totally thinks of her as a moron, even if she is better then humans. If he’s disgusted by how easily she’s trapped by wards we know that it’s Cats fault for holding back and Malicia is a grade A idiot for thinking she could ward trap her without evidence. If he’s not, or doesn’t say anything at all, then we still have to wonder how Cat, of all the Fey Monarchs, is so easy to put into a bottle like any old pixie.

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          • Princess of Hign Noon was kept under wards by unnamed legionaire mages (while it was CRAFTED by Hierophant, the power was not drawn from him) for almost a month. Liesse wards are on the walls, and the ones Diabolist build were inpregnable to Summer, until a way was found. So no, I don’t believe that Cat, after two fights with bullshit op Named would have trouble breaking through a ward that was crafted for the specific purpose of keeping her in, hold by some of the most powerful Praesi practitioners. And it’s not even that. The problem is not breaking through per se, it’s breaking through IN TIME to kill Malicia before she runs off. To summarise, no, I don’t see a problem.

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  3. Well, that could have gone better. Could’ve gone worse, too.

    Larat and the Hunt. Did not see that coming.

    I wonder where Archer is. And Hakram

    Hmmm. It being a fleshpuppet rather than Malicia herself is a problem. Malicia’s going to have time to act against Callow/Cat/Black/et al.

    I agree with Cat, Malicia’s apparent plan is stupid plan.
    Even “Evil never wins” truly applies to the Dead King, it’s unlikely to be in the way Malicia seems to think it will.
    Remember – Triumphant managed to take all of Calernia and hold onto it for five years. The Dead King has way more to work with than She did, and doesn’t have to fight through Callow and the Vales to get at Procer.
    Also, I suspect that the Dead King isn’t a fan of being used, manipulated, or otherwise played, especially by lesser beings like mortals, even Named ones.
    The Dead King is not going to expend anything valuable to help Malicia, certainly not enough to endanger him, even in a worst case scenario. He might make more effort to help Cat, especially since Cat is asking for far less. And, y’know, is a fellow Immortal with the potentiality, if not actuality, of Apothesis.

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    • Frankly I think he sees Cat as something interesting. Her existence is worth putting a little effort in, if only to see what she does. Perhaps he can use it to aid in his real goal. Malicia is only interesting because of the challenge she poses for Cat.

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    • Well, since “Evil never wins”, this pretty much guarantees Malicia a beneficial outcome. Even if that paradigm will not ensue her safety against the DK – with her being evil and such, she won’t need to oppose him directly. She had read the map and made a bet on the nature of Callow and Black Queen. Resulting massacre of callowan forces, civilians, and overall loss of life has no significance to her. She makes a leap of faith, though – by believing that Callow would be able to hold DK long enough for the Karma to hit him fair and square, and – maybe – with gaining a degree of protection from being seen as the much lesser of two evils cause of the “eviler than thou” shtick associated with Hidden Horror.
      Also, there is a muddled matter of invitation boundaries. Triumphant managed to take all of Calernia because she had no such limits. Whenever DK physically can’t break the limiting conditions, may ignore them at will but will be forced to suffer the consequences, or does not give a flying phuck about such trivialities and only plays along because it alleviates the boredom… remains to be seen.

      While I’ll agree with you on the matter of DK not being a fan of being a puppet – if he knows that such attempt is being undertaken, I can see him playing along for his own amusement. Also, for classic SEIC gambit, if supposed puppeteer predictably turns out to be not very smart.

      While your final point holds, there is a matter of scale and a question of knowledge. More precisely – do Malicia knows about DK’s predisposition towards Cat, or does she deems his usual condescending disinterest towards any outsider being in play here? As to scale – a few millions of bone puppets and several lesser Ravenants may be of no value to the DK, but still present a threat of apocalyptic proportions to the rest of Calernia.

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    • Well, since “Evil never wins”, this pretty much guarantees Malicia a beneficial outcome. Even if that paradigm will not ensue her safety against the DK – with her being evil and such, she won’t need to oppose him directly. She had read the map and made a bet on the nature of Callow and Black Queen. Resulting massacre of callowan forces, civilians, and overall loss of life has no significance to her. She makes a leap of faith, though – by believing that Callow would be able to hold DK long enough for the Karma to hit him fair and square, and – maybe – with gaining a degree of protection from being seen as the much lesser of two evils cause of the “eviler than thou” shtick associated with Hidden Horror.
      Also, there is a muddled matter of invitation boundaries. Triumphant managed to take all of Calernia because she had no such limits. Whenever DK physically can’t break the limiting conditions, may ignore them at will but will be forced to suffer the consequences, or does not give a flying phuck about such trivialities and only plays along because it alleviates the boredom… remains to be seen.

      While I’ll agree with you on the matter of DK not being a fan of being a puppet – if he knows that such attempt is being undertaken, I can see him playing along for his own amusement. Also, for classic SEIC gambit, if supposed puppeteer predictably turns out to be not very smart.

      While your final point holds, there is a matter of scale and a question of knowledge. More precisely – do Malicia knows about DK’s predisposition towards Cat, or does she deems his usual condescending disinterest towards any outsider being in play here? As to scale – a few millions of bone puppets and several lesser Ravenants may be of no value to the DK, but still present a threat of apocalyptic proportions to the rest of Calernia.

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      • You are forgetting one of the major linchpins of this story. Preas is rich in valuable gems and metals, but poor in arable land, to the point where every Emperor/ress has miserably failed at managing their massive overpopulation problems with anything other then a big-ass war every few decades.
        It is the story of Preas to take and Callow to be taken, at least it was until Black made the impossible happen by conquering it.
        For Callow to be overrun by undead montrosities means to lose the granary of her own Empire. You could say DK would still make and provide her with food, but why should he? All he has to do is wait for Preas to start up the old game again and bleed her of people / gain soldiers evey other generation.

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        • On the contrary, I do not forget that peculiarity. I simply presumed, that due to Malicia’s actions significant loss of Praesi population is in order. So, in fact, significant, that it remaining population of Praes would be able to sustain themselves with the output of the Green Stretch and blood rituals.
          After the deal, she will support Callow in their struggle against DK with troops, and will withdraw said support the moment their parity would be under the threat of shifting either way.

          In this scenario, Malicia is making two main assumptions, betting on the “Evil will lose” hitting DK, and Callowan stubbornness quagmiring him away from the vital regions of Praes. If – one – Callow will be burned and drained of population, but not despoiled to wasteland condition; and – two – DK would be cast down due to “natural” course of the Story; as a result Malicia will have time to repopulate Praes, and restore and reform Legions as her loyal force. After the inevitable – from Malicia’s point of view – defeat of Dead King, Praes will be standing with fresh powerful armies while being again on the verge of famine, and Callow would be completely exsanguinated, and left open for the Praesi reoccupation, or vassalage at worst. And since most of the capable callowans would be by that moment purged from the land, new regime would be mostly accepted, all while Procer would be unable to do anything about that.

          All this, naturally, will crash and burn spectacularly – but Malicia simply refuses to accept version of the future where she is wrong on that matter.

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  4. …Well, that went well. I’m having trouble remembering exactly the last time Cat messed things up this badly. Trapped helpless in a cage while her morality pet/best friend/crush is killed in front of her? That’s a pretty colossal blunder. She really needs to work out a real way of dealing with wards – burning a rare and precious, nearly irreplaceable artifact every time just isn’t sustainable. Not unless she’s willing to start up a Hero Farm.

    I get her reasoning, but she knows Thief just isn’t a killer. Yes, she might have killed some people in the past, but she’s not deft enough at it to kill the wizards trapping Cat while they’re being guarded by elite soldiers, and Cat should have realized this. Invisibility is a nice cheat, but it’s not unstoppable, and Thief is not Assassin.

    Malicia’s plan isn’t terrible, except for one key flaw; it’s something of a matter of faith on the continent that Evil can never win, but it’s not something that can overrule basic logic. If there’s a way for Good to win, then the Gods Above will play any card to make it happen within reason – but that requires a way for Good to win. They can make plenty of tailor-made Heroes to exploit any opening the Dead King gives them, but if the difference in power is great enough, they’re still doomed – just like how Praes was able to defeat Callow, and how Triumphant was able to conquer half the continent before she was brought down.

    Even if common wisdom were correct, though, and Evil was incapable of winning, that presumes the scale of the story isn’t too large – that conquering all of Praes isn’t the “backstory” of the Dead King’s rise to power, to establish him as the threat the rest of the continent needs to deal with. Or that the “backstory” isn’t how a foolish Empress let him conquer the entire continent, and the rest of the world needs to stop him. For most, that wouldn’t be a terrible assumption, but she doesn’t realize just how powerful the Dead King has become while out of sight.

    If the Dead King were just a normal, powerful Villain, it would be a great way to cripple Praes and unravel the alliance. If she were dealing with the Ratlings, or a souped-up Tyrant, it would be a fine plan. But this is the equivalent of setting off a hydrogen bomb when you thought you were using TNT, and the Gods will have no room to intervene.

    Though… Whether she’s aware of it or not, the Dead King is probably much less of a threat to the Empire than Praes was, so his swift, decisive victory probably still works out to her advantage. The occasional raid and border skirmish is a lot less of an existential threat than the periodic crusades. Nice job fixing it, Malicia?…

    As a final, idle thought, I wonder… The last few chapters have dropped several references to how Thief isn’t a killer; from Akua’s conversation about how Thief’s name didn’t change alongside her team, to how the team teases her for being bad at murder, to the latest failures at assassination. I wonder, is this just establishing character dynamics that ran into some coincidences with the plot, or is this building up to another plot point in the near future? Normally, I’d just put out of mind, but, well, this is a web serial, so it’ll be a couple of weeks before there’s enough updates that I can write it off as coincidence.

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    • Oh, there is one thing you misunderstand, I think. DK is idle against Procer because he’s Evil and they are Good. There is nothing, nothing that stops him from attacking other Evil forces. Well, currently Elves and Procer stop him, but you get my point.

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      • Eh, that’s not quite the read I got from his conversation with Cat. If he eats Praes, he eats one of the few countries willing to give him license to act in the world. Much better to wait around until a future Dread Empress pulls him out to take Ashur, or Gigantes.

        I mean, he needs “permission” to trick the Narrative into letting him take Good countries, and Evil countries are good tools for that. Why take that possibility off the board, just so that you can get a little bit of land you don’t really need a couple of centuries earlier?

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        • He needs permission to not be the story’s main antagonist, but he doesn’t have to have an established Evil nation for this, merely a Villain, important enough. After all, DK needs corpses and Praes has overpopulation problems. Can’t you see? It’s the match made in Hells!

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          • Yeah, but it’s a lot easier to get an established Evil nation to invite the Dead King to go after their foes than it is to hope that a prominent Villain sticks around long enough to give him an opening – and another Evil nation is also more likely to give him sufficient cover, instead of flaking out as a decoy antagonist that leaves him the main villain. And even setting that aside, if nothing else, Praes is guaranteed to possess a villain of appropriate stature to free him at all times; even if they don’t take advantage of the opportunity, isn’t it better to have another opportunity than not?

            The Good nations are the ones that it’s narratively difficult to deal with, after all, and so it’s best for him to leave as many chances to deal with them as possible. Once the last of them has been conquered, he can deal with all of the Evil nations within a year.

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            • Really? There is only one Praesi Tyrant that was qualified to let him off the leash. That we know of, sure, but the point stands. Many tried, I guess, but Silent Palace begs to differ.

              As for Good nations, you’ll be suprised how easy it is to flip Evil Empire to the Good side when alternative is a eternity of slavery.

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              • Well, most Dread Emperors and Empresses after Triumphant were incompetent, insane, tried to wage war on the Dead King themselves, or were preoccupied with Callow and thought they could handle it themselves – post-Triumphant and pre-Malicia, there was rarely really a reason to bring up the Dead King, even if they were willing. After all, how many of them thought the Dead King could help an them turn themselves into a giant spider, or raise an army of invisible sentient tigers? Meanwhile, asking him to help with Callow would no doubt mean offering up a slice of Callow, and Callow was always just an insect waiting to be crushed (if you asked the average Dread Emperor, just ignore all the times Callow refused to be crushed).

                But all of them could have called upon the Dead King if they’d asked. Just the narrative weight of having the largest Evil Empire (on paper) is enough to cement their role in the Narrative, regardless of how flawed they are as a Villain. And if a Dread Empress isn’t enough to reliably call on the Dead King, how many Villains who haven’t conquered a kingdom of their own could hope to do so? Even if most Dread Empresses haven’t called upon him, at least two have – which makes one more than can be said of anyone else on the continent, if we count Cat.

                As for Evil going Good out of self-preservation… That’s easier said than done. Most Villains we’ve seen so far are “Rage against the Heavens” types who are perfectly aware that they’re destroying themselves, but would rather end with style or to prove a philosophical point than save their own lives. Would Akua have ever flipped, before Cat defeated her? Black? The Tyrant of Hekat? To be Named by the Gods Below seems to demand that you devote yourself to your beliefs no matter the cost.

                It’s theoretically possible that an Evil nation might flip if they thought it would protect them from the Dead King, but I just can’t see any of them doing it. Even Cat, the Villain we’ve seen who’s most willing to entertain the idea, never went through with it. Besides, after a few centuries of (mostly) peaceful co-existence, I have to imagine most of them would end up pretty complacent.

                And lastly, the Evil nations of the world consist of, what… Praes, Callow, and a few city-states? It’s a reasonable trade – more opportunities to take out any of the dozens of Good nations, in return for having to wait a bit longer for the last two. The city-states don’t really count, because they’ll probably taken after war with the League as a whole.

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      • I rolled a dark wooden whistle between my steel-clad fingers, feeling it pulse with had once been the Diabolist’s power. To be fae, and I had touched the face of that, was to cease seeing the difference between principle and object as more than thin boundary. I’d experimented with that power, under Hierophant’s supervision, and the whistle had been one of the greater successes. It was an aspect made matter. Certain limitations had not been escaped, and some had even increased – anyone could use the whistle, yes, but Take had been theft of a finite bundle of power. The whistle could only be used once, since I’d yet to figure out how to partition uses. It would, however, work with the full strength of that aspect.

        This is the quote I found regarding the whistle and its limitations; while it doesn’t explicitly say that the power is gone once the whistle is used, that would seem to me to be a more natural reading of the text. If she could make another after using one, I would think that it would have been mentioned here.

        Regarding the Fae eating her fingers –

        I’d taken power to call her to heel, though, and drawing that deep had coloured my reaction.

        The reference to the effects of Principle Alienation suggests to me that she simply used the “basic” powers of Winter – I didn’t see anything suggesting that she used Call, or otherwise employed a stolen Aspect to deal with the Fae.

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    • Thief was kind of a dummy in this chapter. Instead of killing the mages she should’ve stolen the ward and let Catherine deal with them. We know her aspect affects magic (Sulia’s Sun, Akua’s binding on Cat) so going for a kill was just a silly move.

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    • It’s setting up the fact that Thief is a double agent and is till working for ‘good’. The invisible knife at Catherine’s throat. Wonder how much Bard is in effect here to get her to do this.
      I really don’t want it to play out this way as I’m a big fan if Vivienne and Catherine but all signs are pointing to that. I just hope I’m wrong.

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  5. “Evil never wins wars”. Welp. It’s funny, but technically, Malicia is Evil and is at war. Also, one thing she does not account for, is the fact that Dead King is not a country, his a Hidden Horror. Cordelia had gone through much trouble crafting Crusade against mortal country. Against Dead King? Everyone would fight. They can’t afford not to.

    Moreover, she thinks that Dead King will lose, because he’s “Evil and Evil doesn’t win wars”, but, first and foremost, in this story, it’s not Dead Kings war. He is merely a weapon. A demon in the box. And the owner is Malicia, however implausible the word owner is, given the situation. Any war with Dead King is a war against Malicia “The-One-Who-Let-Him-Out”. To put it simply, he’s a weapon she’s using to wage a war. She should lose then, right?

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    • Honestly, it feels more to me like she’s deliberately provoking Cat into… Something. What, I have no idea, but I think she has a plan that relies on an angry Cat going after her once they’re both back in their respective kingdoms. One part of it is probably arranging things such that she can dispose of Cat on her own terms, but I imagine there’s a secondary goal as well that we’re not aware of. Schemers like that never just have one motive.

      Of course, she’s going into things on the assumption that she’ll have a treaty with the Dead King in place, and she won’t, so… We might never see what her “real” plan was, given how her stay in Keter isn’t going to end as she intended. I have to imagine that related to her original plan for Cat somehow.

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  6. “Now now, man-thing,” he chided. “That’s just no way to speak about your superiors.”

    Welp, Larat just rose drastically in my list of favorites even though he’s a treacherous lieutenant and kind of a one-sided character. Skaven remains to be my favorite faction in WH Fantasy.

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  7. So, it just occurred to me that Callow has an unlinked hellgate. I always assumed it would be used for some sort of invasion force to invade Callow (Triumphant or something similar), but if her alliance with the Dead King survive the Uncivil Wars, it could be used as a short-cut between their kingdoms since they are a little far from each other.

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  8. So.
    Plans involving Thief killing people will always fail.
    Malicia Is still going to get the smallest amount she needed out of this trip (Dead king moving)

    And Cat is now openly going to move west after booting her to hostages out of her kingdom without killing them so that they can send along a message about trouble up north.

    Black is about to do something Evil and unexpected

    The city states is going to attack someone.

    oh… If all deals with cat and ‘Good’ people are undone then does that mean angels are going to pop up or will that agreement be kept?

    And the elves are going to continue to hide like a bunch of little bitches.

    And this is the current geopolitical situation in a nutshell.

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  9. Hold on a second. Everyone is talking about Thief screwing up, but did she know about Cat agreeing to keep the super weapon? If Cat never told her about that, it seems like that kind of thing that could shake Thief’s faith in Cat a great deal. The kind of thing that might make thief hesitate to help Cat when she calls for her “secret weapon” perhaps?

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  10. “To declare an assertion of the People untrue is unlawful, even if it was retroactively asserted by vote to be untrue, at which point referring to it as either true or untrue is equally unlawful.”
    makes so much sense…poor belerophon

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  11. This is getting pretty stupid. I wonder what the next thing the protagonist is gonna just forget about until the last minute in order to further the plot. She could have called on the wild hunt during the whole fucking conversation, but it just didn’t fucking occur to her until after the antagonist couldn’t be easily attacked? That’s bad writing. Entertaining, but bad.

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    • Well I thought Cat didn’t call on the Hunt before to limit the mess she makes – we’re still not sure how much will the Dead King tolerate, and this would change it into an open battle.

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    • This really wasn’t a critical point for Cat, though, at least as far as she’s concerned. If she doesn’t stop Malicia now… Well, there’s still a chance another member of the Woe can stop her, or that she can break out after a couple more minutes. And if not… Well, then, Malicia wins the bidding war, Procer loses a few territories, and Malicia can proceed to the next stage of her plan – something which is probably bad for Cat, but which probably still has more opportunities for Cat to stop her.

      Is it really worth losing a powerful tool over?

      Losing Thief, on the other hand… That’s another matter. No way is Cat going to let someone she cares about die in front of her, not if she has any reasonable chance of preventing it.

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    • Personally, my only real complaint is how Cat didn’t take the “try to kill me” and roll with it, even if only briefly — Cat IS glad it was a puppet and that’s honestly an important detail.

      As for the storytelling complaint… Are you familiar with the mindset of “I might need it later” for video game consumables? Once you’ve dismissed something as a desirable solution enough times, it effectively ceases to BE an option. You might not even remember to use it during the final boss fight out of sheer force of habit.

      I will be quite unhappy if Thief dies, but that’s mostly just because I like her and strongly dislike some of the heavy-handed death flags a handful of chapters ago. Well, that and Cat lapsing back into depression right when she’s starting to regain some confidence in her own decisions.

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    • Trying to save a disposable, one use only, irreproducible, powerful tool that would be just as effective “after” all other avenues are explored is unrealistic for you? God, plese tell me I’m actually right at this and not turning into a fanboy.

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  12. So. I’m thinking everyone in Praes, Malicia and even Black missed something.
    They were so focused on the Story that they missed something.
    Who is the orphaned girl from an oppressed town being brought into the service of a Knight? Who was the girl who was given lead of an Army by a leader to defeat her enemies? Who has been steadily defeating enemies while doing the “Right Thing” and making her city better?
    They are so focused on their own Stories they never thought to ask, “who is the overall protagonist?”

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  13. Well Cat your agument is not all that good. She is right, the sole main threat for her has you in between and as a weaker forcer that could give her ground and moral with other nations. By not raising a single hand she has pretty much ensured that the Wastelands are going to prosper under her amd furthermore increasing her foothold as the greatest dread empress so far. And because you are literally at the end of your option you have no way of winning against her, i guess this is it huh…

    *Larat appears out of thin air with deus ex-machina powers*

    …OF COURSE ON THE OTHER HAND!

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  14. So my bet would be that Malicia has two puppets and the other one is with the other half of her people and Archer is killing them, but then she probabaly has a third one who is alone…. I really dont want to be right and want that Cat gets her way at least for once….

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  15. Well Cat is an idiot but she is the protagonist so we would be stuck with her. And she’ll get better – maybe.

    Malicia is both an idiot and a genius and her idiotic genius mind is giving her a very twisted version of reality. In fact, Evil does win wars, her country produced a handful of them in: her BFF, Triumphant, Terribilis I&II, Maleficent I&II. How did all of these people lose? Most of them (aside from Triumphant) lost because the people on their sides betrayed them. And Dead King is a special case where even if he was betrayed by Evil, it would not stick, Malicia would be dead first before that ever benefited her.
    Her along with her annoying empire.

    When I first read this, I was tempted to pray for Amadeus’s death. Not because I didn’t love him as a character, I do. He is my absolute favorite. But I know he is the one thing that is keeping her alive all these years and with him gone, she would be dead meat. And die fighting while also dealing a indirect death blow to Procer is not a bad death IMO. Alas, I can’t say anything more…

    And more to the discussion of Evil not winning or only winning temporarily. It is not that hard to explain. Normal Empire went through ups and downs and most dynasties IRL lasted for 3-4 centuries at best. I think it is a miracle for Praes to keep their Empire this long (thanks magic aka stories). And WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? You killed some of your best people for ??? and you expect talents to be lining the street waiting to be next. Amadeus was an idiot for falling into the same traps all of his predecessors did – believing that by working with the system, he could fix it and make a better one. Uh huh. Honey. I am pretty sure no one had done exactly that before. (It was understandable why Amadeus did but it was still a mistake nonetheless)

    And thinking that “I can advice her to my way” has proven to be not that reliable multiple times in history. Just ask Zhuge Liang the guy who also thought that “I could advice him” about Liu Shan and see how that turn out for him. Frankly, good words rarely persuaded a dog that wanted to die. And for all her flaws, Malicia is not Liu Shan, she is way more intelligent and way more dominating. These people are great when they were right but legendary awful at changing their opinions. Malicia was sold on the idea of Praes and no amount of honest advicing is going to make much of a difference.

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