“Forty-one: should personalities among your band be clashing overmuch, consider leading the band into grave peril. Either friendship or a corpse will ensue, which remedies the issue either way.”
– “Two Hundred Heroic Axioms”, author unknown
Merciful Gods, it truly was a terrible job but someone had to do it. Today that person was Ernest, and though he’d gone as far as offering up his entire savings to anyone in his company willing to go in his place there’d been no takers. Either he’d not saved up enough to tempt someone into the risk, or they’d wisely decided that a corpse could spend no coin. Captain Noémie – her rank meant she did not have to participate in the lottery, the damned lucky witch – had ordered half a dozen of his fellows to come down to the shore with him, enough that even if the Dead struck there should be at least one runner left to bring back the news. Ernest’s last attempt to sway one of them into taking his place was met with jeers and one promise to comfort his sister if he did not make it back to shore. Victor, the last one had been. He’d remember that. The rowboat was cramped and uncomfortable, though even in winter it’d been kept oiled and clean so it would remain in good shape. Ernest, by what he intended to claim was a coincidence, smacked Victor in the face with the oar when his companions pushed him out into the lake.
The waters of Lake Pavin rarely froze even at winter’s peak, but they were icy cold and prone to ripping currents that could easily tip over a small boat like this one. Still that was the last of Ernest’s troubles this morn, for he’d been sent out to see if any of the Dead were lurking beneath the waters. Orders had come down from Prince Gaspard himself, it was said, that all forces by the shores of Lake Pavin and the Tomb were to survey the waters every day. Rumour had it that Langueroche, further up north, had fallen after heavy fighting because the undead had massed in great numbers under the surface of the lake before striking just before morning. The people had fled in time, but now the entire northwest was said to be buckling under the weight of the Dead’s offensive. The young man glanced back to the distant shape of Sengrin, the fortress-town on the hilly slope where he’d been born, and prayed once more it was too small a town to be worth the Hidden Horror’s attentions. They hardly had the men to resist an incursion if it came, for many had been called north to the capital where the Enemy had struck hardest.
Yet the siege there had been broken, Ernest reminded himself. The war was not yet lost.
A scream from the shore shook him out of his thoughts, reminding him simply rowing out would serve no purpose. Carefully, he went looking through the cloth bag hung at the front of the boat and took out a handful of small round stones. As he’d been instructed to, he leant over the side of the boat and dropped three in a line. Whatever it was the priests had done to the rocks, it worked as they’d said it would: light bloomed as they sunk deeper, casting a warm and broad glow. Now he only had to wait until it touched the bottom of the lake, repeat this twice more and he could – oh, oh Gods no. Standing in still and silent rows at the bottom of Lake Pavin, hundreds of figures in ancient armour spread out as far as the light was cast. Ernest desperately scrabbled for the oars again and began rowing, screaming out in alarm for his companions still on the shore, but with utter terror he saw from the corner of his eye one of the stones he’d dropped bounce off the side of a skeletal thing’s bronze helmet. It looked up, an eyeless leering skull, and the young soldier nearly pissed himself.
He hardly made it another twenty feet, screaming all the while, before a spear’s tip punched through the bottom of the rowboat and it began taking water. He tried to keep rowing for a few heartbeats, even as more iron spikes went through the wood, but the weight was too much and his arms too weak. There were dark shapes moving under the water’s surface, but what choice did he have? Cursing, he leapt off the boat towards the shore and began to swim in the icy waters. There were things trying to grasp at his feet but he was quicker than they, even though his limbs were growing numb, and he swallowed cold and scummy water but against all odds he made it near the shore. Enough he could find his footing on the ground below the water – which was then spear took him in the back of the leg and he screamed as hooks sunk into his skin and something dragged him back into the deeper lake. Fingers closed around his throat to keep him still, and though he panicked he realized after a moment they were warm. And coming from the wrong way. A large woman in plate, with a helmet shaped like a snarling badger, grinned at him.
“Stupid brave,” the stranger praised. “But this hurt.”
And then he was screaming and flying through the air, blood spurting as the spear that’d been put in him accompanied him still stuck in his leg. He landed half-weeping, the pain and vicious bite of the wind on his wet body too much for him to take. The wet spear broke, though the head only dig deeper into his flesh. Someone wrapped a blanket around him and faces he could hardly make out for the tears hastily brought him up to the fire near the watchtower further up the hill.
“There’s a priestess on her way,” someone said. “We’ll take out the spear then. You did good, Ernest. Gods, you did good.”
“Who was that, near the shore?” he croaked out.
“Don’t know the name, but I know what the other one told us what they go by,” Victor quietly said. “The Valiant Champion. Levantine, I gather.”
A Chosen, Ernest shivered. With the warmth of the fire and blanket his vision was beginning to stop swimming. He looked back to the lake and thought he must have gone mad, or been poisoned, but the others breathed in sharply and some even began to pray. All along the shore, for what must have been a mile, shapes began to emerge from the water. The dead walked, garbed in iron and bronze, flesh and bone dripping water. And further from the shore great shapes broke the surface, gargantuan snakes of bone and leather and crackling sorcery. And in front of them stood only two silhouettes, sharply glared at by the morning light. Women, both one in wet plate with a great axe resting on her shoulder and the other in a coarse green cloak-tunic that went all the way to her feet. She turned, revealing that behind the long locks framing her face she wore a mask, and flicked some droplets of blood against the rocky shore. The world shivered and Ernest rose to his feet.
“They’ll die,” he said. “There’s too many, and the snakes-”
“Look,” another man croaked. “Gods, look.”
Lake Pavin screamed and tore back, the waters fleeing the shore as if terrified and snapping up most the undead with them. A few soldiers who’d already reached solid ground strode forward uncertainly as the lake continued to retreat, though any who dared to approach the pair were casually dispatched by the Valiant Champion: she smashed through them like they were glass, never needing more than a single blow and moving with blinding swiftness. The snakes – there were three, Ernest now counted – broke free of the waters pulling back and with sky-tearing screams tore forward. The Chosen in the snarling badger helm glanced at her cloaked companion, who nodded distractedly. Laughing wildly, the Valiant Champion began to run towards the gargantuan monsters.
“There’s a few still loose,” Ernests said, glancing to the sides.
“We can handle those, at least,” Victor said, grunting.
In the distance one of the great snakes struck at the Champion, who slapped the massive maw with the flat of her axe – and after a rippling sound the snake was tossed back like a rag doll, hitting the lake and causing waves.
“That’s the Witch of the Woods, it is,” another soldier said, grabbing his spear. “Heard about her. Walloped the Sovereign of the Red Skies real good when they fought.”
“She’s not even the leader of that bunch, I hear,” Victor said. “It’s some Ashuran knight.”
Before their eyes, the waters that’d been drawn back by the Witch began to ice. Tendrils of frost went through, like ink in water, and thickened as they went. Gods, Ernest thought, what manner of a man could command women like these?
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Hanno caught her wrist before the blade could claim more than a scratch on the Mirror Knight’s chin. He would have liked to restrain the Painted Knife entirely, for the threats she was screaming in Lunara were not mild ones, but he could not. His other hand had seized the wrist of the Mirror Knight instead, catching it before he could finish drawing his sword.
“You dare?” the Mirror Knight thundered.
Not at Hanno but at the Painted Knife, who snarled back in kind.
“Enough,” the White Knight said.
“The Levantine tries to slay me in broad daylight and-”
“If you do not release your grip, I will crush your wrist,” White calmly said in Chantant, then changed to Lunara. “Kallia, drop your blade.”
“Did you not just hear him call the Scouring of Vaccei necessary?” she hissed. “Thousands of my people killed, children choking to death on ashes and-”
“I will not ask twice,” Hanno calmly said.
Snarling at him once more, she did. Christophe released the grip of his own blade as soon as he no longer felt threatened, though the dark-haired hero found he had little sympathy for the man. In some ways it was a relief that Procer gave birth to so few heroes, for Hanno had known none save for the Rogue Sorcerer who’d not at one point or another stirred black rage in heroes from another nation. The Mirror Knight was a good man, principled and well-meaning, yet his rustic attitudes and insistence that Procer’s wars abroad had been for the good of Calernia were being received increasingly poorly by the heroes of the Dominion. If he stilled his tongue more often, it would be a negligible issue. Unfortunately, Christophe was both opiniated and frankly rather easy to bait. Which he inevitably was, by one of the several heroes who considered him pompous and in need of a good thrashing.
“Blood was spilled,” the Mirror Knight flatly said. “There must be answer to that.”
“Are you requesting,” the White Knight peacefully asked, “the judgement of the Seraphim?”
The other man’s face shuttered and he curtly shook his head in denial. The Painted Knife, whose Chantant had improved with the months she’d been in Cleves, understood enough to chortle at Christophe’s expense. Hanno’s gaze moved to her, quelling, and she stalked away like a proud cat. A spar with the Vagrant Spear would settle her, he hoped.
“You’ve lost less than thimble of blood, Christophe,” a cultured voice drawled. “Shall you require less than a thimble’s worth of justice to go along with it?”
The Repentant Magister had yet to finish the cup of wine in her hand, for she’d been more interested in spectating the aftermath of the careful barbs she’d sent the Mirror Knight’s way than in finishing her drink. Lounging in her seat in heavy velour robes, the patrician beauty wore a sardonic smile that could widen or dwindle but never quite entirely left her face. Nephele might have renounced the sordid practices and sorceries of the Magisterium, but she’d yet to shed their taste for making a game of others. Even after it had nearly come to blows between two heroes she seemed entirely unrepentant – which might have amused Hanno, given her Name, were he shallower sort of man. As it was, instead he considered to be as much if not more at fault for the incident as the two who’d reached for steel.
“Nephele,” he warned.
“Stygians,” the Myrmidon shrugged from the side, speaking Aenian. “What else can be expected, even from one claiming repentance?”
Bereft of her armour for once, the slender woman was sitting on his cot and polishing the large bronze shield whose holy blessings were as a song to Hanno’s Name. The Repentant Magister’s smile had sharpened the moment she began speaking: neither had hidden the strong and instant dislike they took to each other the very moment they met.
“When the Exarch ran you of Penthes like a whipped dog,” Nephele conversationally asked in the same obscure tongue, “is it true that you were jeered at by the mob on your way out?”
Heroes were not meant to gather in great numbers, Hanno thought, not for so long. Not without a common enemy they could all strive against – and though the Dead King was that, he was simply too distant to fill the need. He could not be found on the field, which left instead a crowd of heroes each itching to fight the war on Keter in their own way without the slightest desire to heed anyone’s commands or any notion of how to remain civil with others just as stubborn. Keeping the peace between them was like trying to teach humility to a cat.
“The Magister does not speak untruth,” the Mirror Knight said, having ignored the exchange he could not understand. “Can the Dominion’s band of heroic killers now cut their allies without consequences?”
“Nephele speaks to stir up amusement,” Hanno flatly said. “And you gave offence with your words that was no less than the scratch of a blade.”
Christophe’s face set mulishly.
“I do not deny that the sanctions visited upon Vaccei were harsh, yet they were hardly-”
“Ah, I’d forgotten,” the Myrmidon mused, still in Aenian. “When Procerans have a massacre, we have to call it sanctions instead.”
“What was that?” the Mirror Knight sharply replied, having caught the tone if not understood the words.
“Is fuck him,” the Myrmidon replied, her Tolesian heavily accented.
“You,” Nephele helpfully clarified. “She means fuck you, Christophe.”
The Mirror Knight reddened. He was a young man, and proud. Too many slights had been offered to him tonight for him, he’d chew on them for weeks. It was the persistence of the Repentant Magister in stirring the pot that bothered the Ashuran, as much for the stirring itself as her persistence in doing so when she’d been confronted about it. She did not usually continue past the first verbal raking of her claws on someone’s back when caught out. The White Knight’s gaze moved to her hands, which he found steady, but then to the cup she was holding. Which was, as he’d noted earlier, still full. So was the open bottle at her side on the table.
“Are you drunk, Magister?” Hanno suddenly asked.
The smile vanished.
“Of course not,” Nephele replied, tone serene.
A lie, Hanno thought. He glanced at the other two heroes: Christophe had followed, but as the Myrmidon spoke nothing aside from Aenian, barely passable tradertalk and a smidge of Tolesian she was utterly in the dark.
“I would ask you for use of the room, Mirror Knight,” he formally asked the Proceran.
The man was still furious, but now he was also confused and aside from it all his natural manners won out – when politely asked a minor favour by someone he considered a social superior, Christophe would feel the need to grant it with aplomb. He acceded to the request. The Myrmidon would require better reason, so instead Hanno asked her to see if the Painted Knife had calmed – and if not, if she could be talked into a spar with the Vagrant Spear. The Penthesian was quite taking with the latter, if not in a romantic sense: their very public matches had become one of the favourite entertainments of the army in Cleves.
“Am I to be punished now?” the Repentant Magister smiled. “I have been a bad girl, and since we have the use of the room…”
“Would that help you?” Hanno frankly asked.
She blinked in surprise. He thought it a little sad, that she had grown so jaded of her own life she no longer genuinely sought companionship in others.
“If all it takes is asking, it is cruel no one has told Antigone,” Nephele chuckled.
That brought out no reaction from him. Hanno understood the Witch of the Wilds perhaps better than anyone not of the Gigantes could, for the silent tongue they shared had a hundred thousand nuances but not a single lie. They knew where they stood, and what could and could not change from it. Insinuations thrown against that were like an egg tossed at a rampart.
“No, then,” Hanno frowned. “Drink is not a remedy, Nephele.”
“A remedy for what?” the Repentant Magister asked.
“Your hands shake without it, I think,” the White Knight said. “How many bottles have you drunk?”
The heroine’s face tightened, and so he knew he’d been correct.
“I am not weak,” the sorceress said.
Hanno sat at her side. How many times did it make now he’d been in this position? The strain was getting to all of them, one way or another. They were far from home, drowning in death, and forced to stand shoulder to shoulder with people they might otherwise draw blades on. The exhaustion they felt was making them all quarrel more than they would have otherwise, for though their bodies were often kept rested by their Names the same could not be said of their minds.
“When you left Stygia, you renounced the sorceries you were taught,” Hanno gently said.
“Not all,” Nephele said. “Enchantment and clairvoyance, healing and strengthening. I am still mistress of these, for all I have cast aside.”
But the curses and destructive sorceries the Magisterium was fond of unleashing on its enemies – or had been, before Hanno and the Ashen Priestess personally slew its finest sorcerers – she had renounced. The magics she used were useful, for all that some of their companions had expressed regret she was the one to come north with them instead of the Rogue Sorcerer, but in the face of relentless tides of death they would not save her life. Fear, Hanno thought, was at the heart of this. That could not easily be mended, but in sharing its hold could be lessened. So they spoke of many things, the two of them, for once pressed the heroine seemed almost eager to speak. They always were, when they searched his face and found no castigation there. Why they could expect it he did not know, for while Hanno often diverged in belief form his companions he had never once thought them his lessers. He, too, knew fear. Still remembered a corpse and a trick, words wielded like knives. Certainty and blindness, the monster had said. I have ever wondered at the difference. The sorry song of doubt, for a monster’s curse in defeat might be dismissed but not so a gloat in victory.
“We must seem so petty to you, White Knight,” Nephele bitterly said. “With our doubts and our failures.”
“You have come a very long way to fight for the sake of people you never knew, against an enemy some claim cannot be defeated,” Hanno gently said. “Even at the worst of the casual cruelty you have offered, never once did I think of you as petty.”
Why do you all hold me in such esteem? He could not help but wonder, for even those among the heroes in Cleves that had never once obeyed his commands still seemed to consider him as a figure of authority – though not one to which they were beholden. It was as if they all knew something he did not, something that set him apart from the rest, and he knew not what it was. So instead he stilled his tongue and held Nephele when the bottle was empty and she wept for the home she loved as much a she hated, for the golden life she had left behind because she could not stand to see men in chains. He held her as she broke and helped her rise when she put herself together again. She’d not needed him, not truly. The woman she’d been the moment she spurned everything she was raised to embrace was the true face of her, not the malice that came out when fear and exhaustion won. They never seemed to understand it, Hanno had learned, that every single one of them had a light in them that was not so easily put out. He put the Repentant Magister to bed, after, and took his leave. It was not yet too late to call on Prince Gaspard and Princess Rozala, to discuss where the Dead were striking.
There would be no rest for the wicked if he could have it otherwise.
I really like how the updates happen when it’s nearly noon where I’m at. First?
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First and not only no vote thread:
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But also no typo thread?
Enough he could find his footing on the ground below the water – which was then spear took him in the back of the leg
Change “then” to “when a”
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Sincerely CopaceticCockroach
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I come bearing typos!
Still that was // Still, that was
his feet but he was // his feet, but he was
water but against // water, but against
was then spear took // was when a spear took
leg and he screamed // leg, and he screamed
hooks sunk into his // hooks sank into his
head only dig deeper // head only dug deeper
him and faces he // him, and faces he
one told us what they go by // one told us they go by
Women, both one in wet // COULD BE Women, both, one in wet OR Women, one in wet OR Women both, one in wet DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU WANT EMPHASIS
considered to be as much // considered her to be as much
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Bereft of his armour for one // Bereft of her armour for once
NOTE: I’m note sure whose armour this exchange centers on or exactly what’s happening. You might also have meant to replace the entire sentence with something like the following, if the shield belongs to the White Knight:
Bereft of his armour for once, the White Knight found the slender woman sitting on his cot and polishing the large bronze shield whose holy blessings were as a song to Hanno’s Name.
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quite taking with the latter // quite taken with the latter
you left Stygian // you left Stygia
diverged in belief form // diverged in belief from
companions he had // companions, he had
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Lucky. Updates come out at 5.00am here
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Club! It’s 6am for me.
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They come out around 6am for me too and I actually like that, it’s a good way to start the day. Three times a week I get up and can ease my way into the day with a new chapter. It’s great.
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Hanno has some faults, but pride is not one of them.
Humility is often underrated as a virtue. Probably because it is so rare, yet it can go places other virtues cannot.
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Interesting. Hanno, you’re such an odd duck.
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Oh. Hanno, like the Choir of “Justice” is a Rorschach Test. People see what they want to see in him during social situations.
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Well, someone who doesn’t judge is a pretty good shoulder to lean to when in need, and a good ear to listen to your concerns.
Also, it’s a bit funny how Hanno seems to ignore his significance from the point of view of other Heroes, seeing as he has one Aspect dedicated to that. He is the White Knight and a Hero sworn to a Choir of the Heavens, of course he is considered a figure of authority. I understand that he is not conceited nor arrogant of his position, but he should know well how important the Name of White Knight is for Calernia.
P.S: It’s Choir of Judgement, not of Justice. It’s an important difference.
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I’m pretty sure he views all people as equals regardless of anything, and that it isn’t his place to judge them as there’s a whole Choir dedicated to that.
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I suspect Hanno is pretty exceptional even among White Knights.
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I would agree. His Recall Aspect is pretty OP and exceptional, he’s got access to the memories of all other Heroes, that’s huge.
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It kind of balances out since he releys on it and does not come up with new techniques and it is only good for combat. As we saw with amadeus it is not the fact that you win, it is the way you win. Also against the dead king, he probably has nothing old Nessie has not seen before.
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True.
Neshamah has a shiny collection of many of the lives that Hanno can Recall. XD
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Named make their character a weapon and a shield and a set of shackles, all three. Hanno is not great and powerful because he is the White Knight, the Knight is powerful and respected because he is Hanno.
Hanno does not believe in mortal laws or judgements, only those of the Choir. He certainly does not believe in class or caste, as such ruined his life. That makes him a rare breed of person indeed, and I’m really curious how he’s going to interact with Catherine.
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True that.
And a scene we have all been anticipating for a long time is Hanno’s meeting with Catherine. More specifically, his use of the Coin of Judgement on her, and the huge speculation on the ‘What if’ of his reaction if the coin lands on Laurels, along with the consecuential freak out of all Heroes about it.
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Dunno, a shell of a former White Knight had given the Ranger of all people quite a challendge for a while. And that is, I suspect, without his Aspects. Alghough later it seems that Revenants had Aspects, in her Interlude they had but a shadow of those. Different Revenants perhaps?
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The rule seems to be that DK’s revenants only get to use two of their original aspects, and even then I doubt they could use any aspect that involved summoning Light or contacting the angels. Given that IIRC one of Hanno’s aspects taps an angelic “archive”, and the other two form stuff out of Light, the revenant WK might have been SOL. And Ranger did beat him regardless.
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But she had to make an effort and use her all aspects, which should say something. I’m pretty sure Ranger will kick Hanno’s ass too, but that was not the point of discussion.
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The point of that scene was to show us that Ranger is always using all her aspects. That’s what makes her so formidable. And she herself treated the fight as a routine workout, just part of visiting her buddy Nessie. Who had her favorite wine waiting for her afterwards. Heck, did the revenants even land a hit on her?
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Huh. Sucks to be Ernest.
Hanno’s actually pretty good at this.
He’s not wrong that too many Heroes in the same place for too long can easily end badly.
The Mirror Knight is a thin skinned whiny little bitch. And a dumbass. There’s a reason it took the Doom of Liesse for everybody else to be willing to work with Procer. And Procer has earned that.
Huh. So, I expect that the gathering of Heroes in the North isn’t going to be a cheery place when Hanno and Antigone leave.
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The Gods are probably organizing bets concerning which Heroes will be killed by the others.
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Procer has earned what exactly?
They funded the Doom of Liesse
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I’m pretty sure that was Malicia who made sure Akua had all the reagents she needed. Procer funded the rebellion and the Lone Swordsman. Admittedly he did try something very Doomly, but Willy just didn’t Rise to the occasion.
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No, hasenbach funded the true bloods and through them auka. But malacia did more to allow it.
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Hasenbach funded Malicia’s opposition, and the funds were funneled towards Akua as their champion. She Did Not Monitor What They Were Used For
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It’s stated that the Truebloods were also paid off by Procer. Malicia let this happen because the money was going towards the Flying City she wanted to steal.
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Procer has earned its near-universal distrust and dislike.
I mean, if we ignore Keter/ the Dead King, the only people more universally disliked than Procerans are Praesi.
I mean, the average Callowan would have trouble deciding whether to kill a random Praesi or a random Proceran.
There’s a reason Levant has a massive magical construct wall on its border with Praes and there are five lines of fortifications, facing Procer in the Vales. And it’s not because Procer is good at making friends.
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Actually because Callow has effectively contained the Dread Empire since Triumphant, most people are pretty meh when it comes to Prasei. They’re not liked or trusted by any means but they’ve been isolated, so strong feelings are rare.
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It’s the honesty principle to. Ask people who hold grudges, it can be said that the prophecy are reasonably straightforward for a kingdom of deception and lies. They’re coming to conquer kalalau take their stuff kill whoever stands in their way. Certainly not likeable but you know what they’re about. When procer does the same thing they call it saving you and for your own good. Between the two I know who I’d hate more
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Gdi autocorrect. Can be said that the Prasei are straightforward ^
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I’ve got to disagree with your assessment of the Mirror Knight. I don’t feel like complaining about someone trying to stab you in the throat is “thin skinned” or “whiny”. I’d be rather unhappy if someone tried to stab me in the throat. Even if I had been saying some rather offensive things previously, there’s a difference between saying something wrong, and attempted murder.
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Nah, Ernest’s going to be fine. That injury will keep him off duty for a while, plus the fact he survived the attack while he was in the boat should mean he’s exempt from doing the depth check again for a while. Once the Dead are thrown back Keter isn’t likely to send more good soldiers after bad.
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The real question is how will they function when the black queen shows up, they can barely keep it together when it’s just heroes but when villains show up?
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Honestly, knowing Cat, she would probably act as a stabilizing influence, either by raw charm or by playing the role of the common ‘enemy’.
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Or both.
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Yep. Probably a healthy dose of fear, too. She has quite the rep, these days.
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It will be interesting to see how the Heroes who faced her before will react when they have to accept her as an ally, especially considering how they are divided and understandably exhausted and holding on their patience by the teeth.
Will relief at having her on their side overshadow cultural bias and previous strife? I mean, she straight up murdered some of them, though hey got better. Then again, I suppose laughing over such “misunderstanding” is a time-honored heroic tradition.
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Well, we have Nephele here for an example of attitude towards such a thing 😀
Then again, Cat is Callowan, not Stygian. That might make an… unpleasant amount of difference.
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Also in those heroic axioms book, there probably is a saying that the more heroes you have in your party the higher likely hood that infighting or death happens.
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It’s always five or six. Or, well, it caps at five or six, it can be fewer when it’s only just starting to form.
What Hanno has there is, ah. Not a party -_-
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Yeah, that epigraph is cold, but it’s also on the nose.
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I read that as “on the noose” and now I have coffee in my nose.
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“Irritant’s Law: inevitable doom is a finite resource, and becomes mere doom when split between multiple heroic bands. Nemeses should never simultaneously engage a single villain.”
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I wish White Knight’s [Judgement of the Seraphim] was a passive skill so he could become a true murder hobo.
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#unrelatable
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I think Hanno’s being a bit dense. The Black Night knows why his people follow him: he’s the military leader of the Dread Empire, so of course they do. The White Knight is his counterpart, so of course everybody naturally follows him too. Hanno is doing the “liaise with the leaders of the conventional forces to strategize” part of the standard Role played by his Name too.
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I think it’s the issue of the other way around: WHY is him being a White Knight such a big deal? Sure he’s doing the thing everyone expects of him now that they do, but why do they in the first place.
That said, he’s DEFINITELY also a bit dense ;u;
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I’m not certain if dense is the word, really. It feels more like a perceptual/worldview mismatch between Hanno and, well, almost everyone. He’s not dumb – he can and does understand that other people see things differently, and takes that into account. But intellectual understanding isn’t the same as feeling that the way other people see things actually makes sense. That seems more like what’s going on with him.
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Actually, he reads to me like a Dunning-Kruger victim (aka Imposter syndrome). That is, he doesn’t appreciate his own strengths and virtues. Aside from leadership, Ttat business of simply not judging anyone, aka “unconditional positive regard” — that really is a holy thing. Many or most people in our world would recognize it as such and react accordingly, even if they didn’t apply the terminology of religion.
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I think the thing here is that Hanno is humble. That’s what we are seeing.
Most heroes are proud, and that is why they have conflicts with each other.
Hanno is humble, which is rare among heroes, and makes his interactions with the other heroes, even when chiding them, much more acceptable to them.
Yet his very attribute of humility, makes him unable to see that he is humble, and so he cannot understand why others have such respect for him.
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Of course, that is related to his refusal to judge. He refuses to judge because he is humble.
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Well… he is humble, but then there’s this:
> She’d not needed him, not truly. The woman she’d been the moment she spurned everything she was raised to embrace was the true face of her, not the malice that came out when fear and exhaustion won. They never seemed to understand it, Hanno had learned, that every single one of them had a light in them that was not so easily put out.
Horse effing puckey “she’d not needed him”! That kind of counseling is deep juju — some people never master it even with professional training. Yes, each of them, as each of us, has a light within them… but that light is easily buried and hidden – not just by fear and pain, but by a lifetime of habit and training. It’s not many people who can face down someone so over-practiced in abuse and accustomed to privilege, without tearing strips out of them… and then turn to comfort them.
Especially given that Hanno himself grew up at the other end of the whip… not quite a slave, but IIRC it was his refusal to lash back at even his own tormenters and their kind, that endeared him to a Choir of angels.
On a broader scale, the pattern I’m seeing in this story is that heroes as much as villains, have flaws as great as their strengths. Some, like Cat and Hanno, can redeem their flaws with their virtues, but for others, like Akua-as-was and William, their flaws become their doom. For Kairos and Tariq, the jury’s still out….
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I guess to me that’s what I mean by humility.
Hanno sees the good in others, because instead of comparing their worst moments and attributes to his best (like most people do) he compares their best to his worst. So of course he thinks things like “she didn’t really need me” because in his mind their virtues that made them heroes is what defines them, not their flaws.
Hanno’s defining trait in his call was to decide that he was unworthy. Unworthy to judge. Judgement belongs to the Gods. So he doesn’t judge the others around him, and so others can be comforted by him.
Or as Christianity puts it: “Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.”
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But even in your own quote there’s that “as much as lieth in you” — recognizing that it’s not an easy thing.
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This.
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Like, they follow him because he is a damn badass. It isn’t super complicated. It is the exact same reason Hackram is Boss Orc.
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Doesn’t really work this way for heroes. They squabble regardless of power level.
But Hanno has double mandate – as a White Knight and a Hero of Judgement – and is, as someone very articulate above has said, basically a holy person in personality.
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I’m starting to think these axioms were written by a villain for laughs. Probably Traitorous or Irritant; it seems up their alley.
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That seems remarkably plausible.
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They’re also remarkably true.
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Relevant. I think Cat actually noted something similar to this with the Pilgrim (and almost right away, because Cat is sharper than a goblin-steel razor) – Black’s version of Practical Evil looks like avoiding tropes/stories, because those work against him as a villain. It follows that the heroic version of Practical Good would often tend to look like leaning into tropes/stories, because those favor heroes and if it’s dumb but it works then it isn’t dumb.
Which incidentally is probably related to why heroes often seem to struggle with reaching an accommodation with Cat – it’s not a choice commonly supported by heroic stories, so it to at least some extent entails going against the learned instincts of their profession that have been keeping them alive in their (still very dangerous, even with Providence) line of work.
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Mhm!
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Or they were written by Amadeus’s slightly nicer past incarnation.
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I love how bands of Heroes apparently fight themselves even more than bands of Villians. Isn’t it quite ironic that all Evil bands we know of are based on friendship and all the Good ones are fighting each other in words and blades both, more often than not?
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We know 2 (two) evil bands, and it is completely unprecedented. Amadeus is likely the first villain on Calernia to gather an actual 5 man band, and Cat’s his successor in that.
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I think that makes it even funnier tbh. How the faction that’s completly new to the Band-of-people thing actually makes it work out a whole lot better.
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But even so, the Villains only get to have one band. As soon as the Woe was fully assembled, the Calamities started getting killed off.
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I should say, the Calamities got broken as a band — Ranger had already left, and even in the Summer fight she showed up alone. Black and Malicia split, the Champion killed, later the Warlock killed, and Black lost his Name. So the Calamities are no more, long live the Woe.
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Where did Assassin get to, anyway?
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Real good question. Hmm. Come to think of it, has she even been “seen” (active) since the Doom of Liesse? When was the last time she was spotted?
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During their “invasion” of Procer, it was mentioned in a discussion involving Amadeus, Scribe, and possibly one or more of the generals, that Assassin was in Ashur.
This was before Ashur got blockaded by the League.
So Assassin’s current location is unknown, his last known location was Ashur, but that information is some months out of date.
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Wait… wasn’t it Ashur that was attacking the city Warlock was defending? If Assassin tried slipping into the invasion forces to sabotage them, he might have become collateral damage.
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Unlikely.
Assassin was going after Ashur’s political leadership and infrastructure.
Remember, Ashur is has a very structured hierarchy, and the son (and presumably heir) of the leader of Ashur was in Malicia’s pocket before the Crusade.
Besides, there’s no way Assassin gets offscreened without some kind of indication that he was heading for trouble first. Sure, Captain got offscreened, and Amadeus got captured offscreen, but we knew they were about to be in a fight.
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Fair ’nuff. Re: Captain, I’m not sure that even qualifies as offscreen — we knew she was in a fight, it just didn’t turn out the way we expected.
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Well, villains are generally much stronger when they are not in a band. Like, Akua very nearly beat the Woe and Calamities at once, Tyrant took over the whole League alone.
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That I think is more a testament to the particular individual than anything. Akua as a loose part of Cat’s band appears to be capable of far more damage.
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I mean that makes perfect sense to me. They only got to have it where they didnt before BECAUSE they managed to get it down perfectly. While heroes, who get it as a default option, are not necessarily good at it. Like many of them are, and some of them (a higher number than villains) can get it to work in the same ‘well oiled machine’ way as Calamities did, but the majority are just kinda scrabbling along.
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Simplifying the underlying philosophies, heroes is about what above wants, villains is about what *they* want. Heroic bands are pushed together by above which makes it easier for discord as they themselves don’t necessarily want the band’s formation, it is hwaven mandated necessity. Whereas for villains the band would rarely form because they would rarely band together as their gials are unique and have no obligation to form bands. But when they want to, because its their own choice it makes them more likely to put effort into it.
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I mean, the roster of Names for the Dread Empire support a kind of evil nega-party formation in general. The lack of the backstabbing that is stereotypical in evil parties definitely should qualify Amadeus’ group as legitimately exceptional though – is that what you meant by saying actual five-man band?
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Well, the thing is, even a 5-person group isn’t necessarily a Five-Man-Band in the trope sense. (Comics example: Even with a fifth member added as they sometimes do, the Fantastic family are not a 5MB, because their Brain is also the Leader. They are instead a Four Elements group.) The Calamities were a clear example, with all roles represented. The Woe originally had some mixed roles, but have mostly stabilized as Cat focused on leadership and Archer settles in as Lancer.
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The Calamities aren’t a TVTropes Five-Man Band, though. There’s no Chick. (Unless you want to try and shoehorn Hye into the role, but, well…)
Also, when did Archer ever usurp Hakram as Lancer? She’s been the Big Guy from the start.
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Actually you’re right, and I misspoke — the Calamities never quite lined up (I got confused looking at the TVTropes page, which lists Assassin as a “Dark Chick”, and that’s just clearly wrong). Which trope-wise may be why they became unstable after the war.
In the Woe, Hakram and Archer have been figuratively tussling between the Big Guy and Lancer roles from the start, but Hakram has the external markers, and even as Cat’s “second” he’s been playing the “heavy” roles. Remember, a Big Guy doesn’t have to be dumb, nor are they limited to just being the muscle. (Look at Ben Grimm — clearly the FF’s “muscle”, but also smart, and often the most grounded of the group.)
Hakram sacrificing his flesh hand for “the team”, and placidly relaying threats while tied upside down, are very much tough-guy moves.
Meanwhile, Archer has the personality contrast to Cat, plus mobility and aggression. In the Everdark and Twilight, she was Cat’s backup and second in the field, while Hakram held the fort back home.
So I think they’re settling in with Hakram as Big Guy and Archer as Lancer.
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Note that the Calamities did not actually include the Dread Empress as one of them. The Dread Emp / Warlock / Chancellor quartet doesn’t even match the number, and they defiitely don’t match the dynamic – they’re not a well-oiled machine united against the world, they’re squabbling rivals who might have personal bonds in like groups of 2, but generally just clawed their way to the top separately. Note how Amadeus was accepted as the Black Knight in Nefarious’s court, despite his band being completely separate and the Chancellor viewing him as a tool/resource.
They’re hardly even an alliance under outside pressure, let alone a party.
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Hmm… Amadeus was part of Nefarious’ court, but not in a band with him. It was when he teamed up with Warlock and some outsiders that the Calamities formed. How do an Emperor, a Warlock, and a Chancellor make up a quartet anyhow? 😉
But yeah, Malicia is Boss rather than Leader. Arguably her fatal mistake was trying to treat Black as her Lancer rather than a Leader in his own right.
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So the DE does have a certain number of “set” Names that are more or less a constant, but IIRC having a couple of “ancillary” Names (such as Captain or Assassin) come along in every generation is also typical. So they do generally have the numbers and at least several of the archetypal roles filled.
> They’re hardly even an alliance under outside pressure, let alone a party.
As for this, that’s basically what I was referring to when saying that Amadeus’ group is exceptional in not sharing the stereotypical evil-party tendency towards rampant backbiting.
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This isnt a Band though We have seen Heroic Bands they work just fine. They are about a Two Dozen Active Heroes in the story right now…14-16 of them are hanging out in the North or about enough to make 3 Heroic Bands.
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So, the heroes should split the party?
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More accurately, the heroes should split *into* parties. Right now, there’s just a big group of them. Two or three well-built parties who get along well together would work much better.
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More like making a few parties, but… yes? Chances are they’d be more effective. After all, the war has a wide front. I’m not sure why they seem to be mostly in one place, though perhaps they were countering a big offensive?
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There is more to a five-man band than throwing a leader, lancer, heart, big guy, and a smart guy together. They also need a concrete goal and according to the story logic here the dead king is not that concrete of a goal. Defend Procer? Some of these heroes hate procer and are only here because the crusade originally went against Praes. In fact, this is probably why the Crusades don’t work against the dead king. Heroes are erratic and volatile elements in any geopolitical scenario, which is why they are so dangerous to tyrants or villains. However, if you stick enough of them together and put them under enormous psychological pressure as Nessie is doing here then half the time they wind up fighting each other not the dead king much less working together like a well-oiled machine to take him down.
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> perhaps they were countering a big offensive
Yes, DK was sieging the capital of… Cleves, I think it was? One of the Proceran princedoms that sits on the lake, with the implication being that if it fell DK would have a clear route into Procer’s heartlands AKA their strategic soft underbelly. So they all bunched up for that, and since the siege broke I guess now they’re sweeping out to clear the coast. Since Rafaella and Antigone handled this encounter on their own clearly they’re dividing up at least somewhat now. Though it would also make sense for them to be sticking close enough to each other to provide mutual support if they get pressed – otherwise they’d just be inviting defeat in detail.
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Don’t you know? You never split the party. Clerics in the back keep the fighters hale and hearty, the wizard in the middle where he can shed some light, and you never let that dang thief out of sight.
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I don’t know if that’s actually their logic, but it’s the best I’ve got.
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Love the way you’re expanding the narrative styles of yours ! The hasenbach interlude is excellent in a “jamesbondish” way, now we have a hero that actually cares for others for a change (and not scheming instead of caring for instance, Pilgrim I look at you), I thought you had demonstrated all your talent and you keep surprising in the most excellent way !
Keep it up, take time for yourself to get enough energy to offer us so much quality ! APGE is my most favourite series of books ever since the Corwin Cycle I read as a teenager 🙂
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I had to Google “Corwin Cycle” to find Amber.
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Wow.
Starting to see why two bands of Named working together as mates have been able to complete eviscerate the world order, even despite being villains.
What a crowd of muppets.
Ye gods, if more or less any of my parties (on either side of the screen) formed on Calernia (given they range from seven to eight and are horribly coherent), they’d have been ruling the entire continent inside five minutes…
(That said, in the exception party to that rule, where the DM explictly wanted everyone in-fighting, I felt Hanno’s pain; in the end, I felt I had to trade in my Chaotic Evil character (last time I ever play that alignment, fun though it was) for an Anti-Paladin just to try and keep the game and party going. Predicatably enough, though, that game still collapsed; though to DM’s as-then-undaignosed severe Aspurger’s likely didn’t help matters.))
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You had to trade your Chaotic Evil character for an Anti-paladin?
But aren’t anti-paladins usually chaotic evil already?
Also, you should invite me for your Adventure games. I have been waiting to play a only-evil party for a good while, killing off unicorns and taking slaves off to sel.
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Nah, Lawful Evil (which is the dominant and/or required alignment for all of the Evil parties I personally DM for). One thing I learned early on is that unless it is a particular player I trust, either everyone if (non-chaotic) evil or no-one is.
Admittedly, one of them was more by accident than by design; I am retiring our SpaceMaster/Rolemaster party of twenty-odd years this year (they are just to over-powered to be sensible with), and the party that is taking over from them (which has had a couple of advntuers so far) was going to be explictly focussed on the sort of explore-y sort of adventurers my day-quests tend to end up as. By coming out and stating this at ground level, it meant I could skew the adventurers such tyhat exploration was finding otu stuff was the objective and the characters could have skills appropriately, since the players knew from the get-go that was the plan.
I was trying to work out what group to use as the basis for this sort of party, ticking through all the usual suspects of good-aligned powers and i chuckled to myself and thought, “I always could use the Aotrs (the high-tech spacefaring crowd of magical space liches from which my user name stems).” And I laighed for a moment, and then realised that I actually had more detailed information on the Aotrs ground forces (right down to the design linage through the centuries of theirr coldbeam rifles) and actual figures and stuff for the wargames that, actually, that was not at all a stupid idea. It would mean slicing the amount of work in half, easily! So what we ended up with was a sort of Aotrs-Does-Stargate-SG-1. (But, actually, being the Aotrs, it sort of mandates the most lawful evil of lawful evil character concepts to start with – since all those mavericks that don’t play by the rules don’t even get recruited – despite being played in a system that doesn’t have actual alignment.0
(The other Evil parties courrently existing a Galatic Empire group (like Evil Rogue Squadron) – though we have’t pakyed that for ages, and a fantasy party which is the Dark Lord’s secret Black Ops division. That too is a very LE group, though not as stringently. I have an extremely strong affinity for LE, being essentially LE myself. One of the reasons I find the Guide so endlessly entertaining. Cat and Black in particular would fit right into the Aotrs or the Umbra Vigilies!)
Unless you happen to live in the UK within spitting distance of Derby though, I suspect you’d be out of luck joining in, since we don’t play over the internet. (And the fact that for day quests, we are often limited more by the fact we can only physically fit eight plays plus the DM into the dining room…)
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You had a 7 to 8 man RPG? Dude, don’t blame yourself for that collapsing, that is just too many players.
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Hahahahahahahahaha! No, eight is just the feasible maximum, because after that, it takes a little too long to go around the table, plus physical space around said table. Heck, anything below six I consider to be UNDER-sized.
We had that ONE PARTICULAR PARTY collaspe because the DM explictly wanted the party to be fighting each other. Not even sure we had that many players in that specific instance (six, maybe?) (The DM leaving us as a player for the aforemenetioned medial reasons after that, was one of the reasons it collapsed, even, as I was doing a fair job of keeping the party relatively cohesive.)
Our regular groups – the weekly sessions – runs down at the wargames club at about seven characters (we have had eight over nine players before, though). The day quests I ru n four times a year at home puts the limit on how many people we can physically fit in my dining room, because there is over a dozen players I *could* invite (usually we have six to eight plus DM, depending on who can make on an organised day[1].) And my systems of choice are either Rolemaster or a hybrid version of 3.5/Pathfinder I label 3.Aotrs. So, no, not even crunch-light systems.
This party I’m retiring? (Their final quest, which will be a two-day game for the first time since my 18th, if for my 40th.) The other reason it’s going it because the number of PCs, old NPCs, secondary PCs and PCs add-ons has been building over the last quarter-century with no losses (of characters) to the point the whole party consists of 15 characters. In Rolemaster. (Fortunately, it has been kept at the point the players don’t usually need or want to trot them all off the ship at once… But they will for this last one, at least for the last, final battle…)
Like I said, most of the parties run under my control are horrendously cohesive and work pretty seemless as a combat unit with that number of characters.
[1]The aforementioned Aotrs party will always be eight characters, with any spaces not filled by PCs filled with NPCs because that’s the size of an Aotrs squad.
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FRAGDAMMIT HTML CODE AND NO EDIT OR PREVIEW FEATURE.
Sorry, it’s always a gamble hitting that submit button, Seriously WordPress, get your act together.
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Can’t wait until Cat and the Witch get together to discuss the finer points of lakeomancy.
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Oh no! A rival claimant for the title of preeminent lakeomancer! Car will have to defend her title.
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I feel like this particular axiom was written by Saint.
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I just realized that Hanno thinks nothing of having someone who A) is in a position of immense power, and B) speaks positively of what sounds a lot like pogroms. That’s chilling.
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Hanno does not judge.
But yeah.
The Mirror Knight is reminding everyone why they hate Procerans.
Arguably, why they normally actively hate Procerans even more than they do the Praesi. For one thing, the Praesi haven’t really been an issue for most of the continent (except Callow, and they’re aren’t any Callowans present) for centuries, but Procerans have been assholes all along. And at least the Praesi are upfront about their willingness to commit atrocities – and when they do, they don’t try to sell their atrocities as anything else.
For that matter, there’s a reason why the Calamities could openly be active in the League (and for the most part, nobody particularly cared) while Cordelia couldn’t be openly involved.
Hell, even during the Occupation, it’d be hard for most Callowans to decide who they hated more between a Proceran or a Praesi. And open Proceran involvement would have ruined any attempt to act against the Praesi.
I suspect that the Mirror Knight would have been all for a Proceran occupation of Callow. He might even have been for a genocide of Praes, including the greenskins.
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> … open Proceran involvement would have ruined any attempt to act against the Praesi.
And arguably did so!
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Not really, in case of a real-world parallel, it is like china vs North Korea. Where one is an isolated comically ineffective nation that routinely starves itself and tries to build superweapons vs one who is one of the wealthiest nations on the continent. Believes they are doing the right thing and is rather a territory hungry empire. But they can be reasoned with on occasion. Personally, I think that between hungry imperialist vs demon summoner which is praes’ national hat I would go with hungry imperialist.
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I mean, if the Jews didn’t want to be killed, they shouldn’t’ve been born, am’a’right or am I right?
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I’d say this is in bad taste even in context =x
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Eh, I come from a family of German Jews who escaped to USSR before the Holocaust. My grandpa survived the WW2 almost entirely in a concentration camp. I can’t honestly comprehend why everyone should be tiptoeing around the whole thing. Even literal centuries of systemic abuse of Jewish people by European monarchies are the thing of the past, and most opressed their own people just as bad. Shit happens, the world’s no sunshine and rainbows. Making a sacred cow of anything is stupid. You can’t insult the dead anyway, they’re dead. On that note, cemetaries are a useless waste of space.
Sorry to vent, but I am honestly annoyed by how even mentioning “specific people dying in specific cirfumstances as if they are any different from any other dead person” is a sacriliege. Death is death is death. Actually burning people alive is bad, jokes about walking holocaust ovens may actually be good.
In short, I maintain that nothing shoild be sacred. My jokes may be unfunny, but they can’t be a bad taste. There is nothing you can’t joke about. There is nothing you shouldn’t joke about. Humor is healthy, it actually helps us deal with trauma. It would be much better if we laughed at tragedies, instead of revering them. And made sure we can’t repeat them, ofc.
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I am also from a Jewish family, though most of my grandparents came from further east in Europe (Poland, and a town that changed flags at least three times in Grandma’s lifetime and probably more since). I’m no stranger to dark humor, but even so, I’ve learned to be careful about “landmine” references that can set people off — once triggered, people won’t even be interested in unpacking the reference, much less seeing the humor.
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Yeah, well that’s just people being stupid and I’m not making allowances for that. I’LL NEVER SUBMIT!!
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Dude, allowing for other people’s emotional responses to your words is not “submitting” to them. Yes there are cases were “offensenititivity” (thank you Burke Breathed) can be deployed as a control tactic, but this isn’t even close to that territory.
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Late-nights and no edit button don’t mix:”… where offensensitivity (thank you Berke Breathed) …”
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TBF, heroes don’t exactly have political decision making powers. Sure, Mirror Knight has serious firepower, but he isn’t going to be deciding policies any time soon.
He’s just That One Asshole with very badly thought through political opinions, with the only harm he’s causing being pissing other people off.
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> I just realized that Hanno thinks nothing of having someone who A) is in a position of immense power, and B) speaks positively of what sounds a lot like pogroms. That’s chilling.
A) What Javvies said.
B) Since I’m a stickler for definitions (that’s right – hello, I’m That Guy) I have to say I very much doubt the incident in question would be describable as a pogrom. Given that the most plausible historical context is during the Levantine revolt against the Proceran imperialist forces, that would be much more likely to be a good old fashioned war crime, probably of the collective punishment subcategory by the sound of it (wasn’t Vaccei home turf of the Brigand, or am I misremembering?). I wouldn’t put it past Procer to have some pogroms on record also, mind – heck, the fucking House of Light seemed to be engaged in whipping up a pogrom against Lycaonese in Salia literally like right now in Guidetime, at least until Hanno and Antigone showed up and went Fuck No.
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No, it was simply attack anyone who isn’t you. It happens all the time. The race riots of Chicago was not a progrom since it was rather disorganized.
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Random thing I noticed this post, wasn’t sure if it was intentional or a typo:
Is the Myrmindon male, female, both, nonbinary? There are several instances during which they are referred to by both male and female pronouns, and sometimes in the same paragraph.
“Bereft of *his* armour for one, the slender *woman* was sitting on *his* cot and polishing the large bronze shield whose holy blessings were as a song to Hanno’s Name. The Repentant Magister’s smile had sharpened the moment *he* began speaking.”
“‘Is fuck him,’ the Myrmidon replied, *her* Tolesian heavily accented.
‘You,’ Nephele helpfully clarified. ‘*He* means fuck you, Christophe.’”
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I never thought of imposter syndrome as a weapon, but the Black Knight weilded it perfectly.
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