Chapter 17: Cloaks

“Trust in yourself and no other is violence upon all the world. Trust in others and not yourself is violence upon the soul.”
– Eudokia the Oft-Abducted, Basilea of Nicae

It’d been a while since someone had decked me in the face and I’d actually felt it. Indrani wasn’t an amateur, so instead of landing a glancing blow her knuckles buried themselves into my jaw and I was jarred off my feet. The throb of pain began before I would have hit the ground, if I had – instead my arm snapped out and my staff smacked into my open palm. Years of training in the yard made that enough I was able to turn the tumble into a step back. An agonizing one, as my bad leg was less than pleased by the sudden movement and I’d not numbed it with Night before moving. Straightening my back, I turned back to my friend and casually raised an eyebrow.

“That stung a bit,” I admitted. “Are we actually going to talk now, or do I need to tie you up first?”

Indrani’s eyes hardened. Not at the threat, though – we used those on each other at least once a day with utter nonchalance. Something about my tone had raised her hackles even further up. Silvery mail glittering in the fire’s light, she clenched her fingers into fists before forcing herself to breathe out.

“You don’t even realize it, do you?” Archer said. “A year ago, you would have caught that. Snapped my arm twice on the way there if you felt like it.”

“We’re not a year ago,” I said.

I did not bother to inject regret I did not feel into those words. The Night was not panacea to all my ills, but to rid myself of Winter’s costs I would have settled for much, much less at my fingertips.

“I know that,” Indrani said. “So why the fuck are you acting like you are?”

Fear. Under the anger, the indignation, it was fear lay at the heart of that reaction. I didn’t tell her to calm down, I knew better than that. We had too much in common, and nothing had ever excited my anger quite like being told I had no right to it. This was a wound to lance, not hole to patch over. So I’d give her what she needed to get the venom out.

“I took necessary risks,” I calmly said. “Not without reason, or out of pride. If I’d waited longer the Third Army might have been lost.”

Then you should have lost it,” Archer hissed. “How many of these gambles do you really think you can win, Catherine? Nine out of ten, ninety-nine out of a hundred? At the rate you’re taking them we’ll find out soon enough.”

“I won’t leave any of mine to die if I can do something about it,” I said. “You’ve known that since the day we met, ‘Drani. Marchford wasn’t a battle I was forced to fight. It was one that needed to be fought.”

Archer’s hand lashed out and the jug of wine flew, shattering against the wall with a wet sound. The last mouthfuls of wine there’d been left spilled down in red rivulets.

“Was walking up to a Named whose aspect scared even Sve Noc needed as well?” Indrani harshly asked. “Or putting yourself at the Tyrant’s mercy, not even an hour after? You’re still going around like if you lose a limb it’ll grow back, but it won’t. You can’t jump down every pit you find and tell yourself you’re strong enough to crawl out after, Catherine. You’re not strong enough anymore.”

We were having, I thought, a very different conversation from the one she thought we were. If Vivienne was a creature of the unspoken, the unsaid, then Indrani was one of shrouding aggression. You could get a much better read on her fears through what she reproached others than what few crumbs she willingly offered up about herself. I no longer had Winter, and so these days I was a great deal more fragile. That was half of the circle, here, and only that. The other half was Indrani’s shivering near-death in a mausoleum of ice that she could have done absolutely nothing to get out of, if she hadn’t been helped. Help, that thing her savage beast of a mother had taught her was always weakness. Thread that with the knowledge that there was nothing she could have done to avoid that position except not being there, not fighting, and you got a rope tight enough for Archer to hang herself with. She could rage and accuse all she wanted: all I saw and hear was my friend choking slowly, now that she’d been stripped of the flawed foundations she’d once stood on.

“It was never a game, love,” I gently said. “I’m sorry you had to learn it that way.”

She laughed, brittle and sharp.

“No, don’t you think that’ll work,” Indrani said, stepping up to the table. “You don’t get to play the sage’s role when you just marched a pile of wet kindling through a burning district. You don’t get to tell me it’s not a game when you still act like it is. Who the fuck do you think you are, Catherine?”

“Tell me,” I said.

There was barely a flicker of her Name’s power before she put her bare fist through the table. Wood splintered and flew, the entire thing collapsed under the sheer weight of the blow.

“That’s your skull, if you run into the Saint on your next lark,” she conversationally said. “So don’t pretend this is a favour you’re doing me, that you’re letting me rage on your shoulder until my blood’s cooled. Because this is real, Catherine, so you’ll give me a godsdamned answer.”

She brushed a few splinters off her hand before pointing an accusing finger down at the wreck. None of the prickly pieces, I idly noticed, had broken her skin.

“Who do you think you are?” Indrani repeated, in that same deceptively calm tone. “Some favoured child of Below, somehow exempted from dying when you get in over your head? Because Triumphant thought she was that, had an actual Name still and terrible armies besides, and she still fucking died.”

She shrugged.

“Is it the Black Knight’s legacy you think make you invincible?” she asked. “Where is he now, Catherine? And let’s not pretend you didn’t pick and choose what you learned at his knee. If the authentic article got had, what makes you think the bastard get will make it through unscathed?”

I matched her gaze without flinching as she advanced, carelessly kicking aside the broken table between us.

“Or is it just that you alone of all the world were born under a victorious star,” Indrani said, distance closing between us. “Fate’s got plans for you, eh? Catherine Foundling can bleed, can scar and lose limbs, but she can never fucking die.”

She leaned in, ochre-brown face mere inches from mine. I could almost feel her breath against my lips.

“Where was that victorious star down in the Everdark, then?” she asked. “When Sve Noc had your neck in their grip and a little twist was all it would have taken to bring an end to the road? All but for the mercy of goddesses, and you had no right to expect mercy of those two.”

Indrani bared her teeth.

“Answer me,” she demanded in a snarl.

I caught her wrist when she raised her arm to push me back. The staff I left there, and it stood still as if perfectly balanced.

“I don’t have any of those things,” I told her quietly. “You know that too. One day I’ll be a little too slow, or not clever enough, or it’ll just be a… bad day. And I’ll die. Just like that. It’s always been the end of this story. And there’s no guarantee I’ll complete my work before that day catches up to me.”

Archer ripped her wrist free from my fingers, cradling it with her other hand like my touch had been enough to burn her skin. She took a step back, though I doubted she even realized it.

“You can’t expect us to care when you treat your life like Creation’s kitchen rag,” Indrani said. “I might as well get attached to a mayfly.”

“If I was always careful,” I said. “If I was all prudence and planning, hiding behind my people and leaving every battle to be fought pass me by – if I did all those things, Indrani, would we even be having this conversation?”

I saw the moment where the part I’d not been cruel enough to speak sunk in. If I was all that, would you even care about me in the first place? She flinched, and it brought me no joy, but to bind a wound it must first be cleaned. And this particular one had been left to fester for much too long already. That, more than all the rest, shamed me. Because I’d known it would hurt more for the waiting, and I’d chosen other needs over it anyway. A queen would not have felt guilt, I thought, for choosing queenship’s duties over family. But it wasn’t the queen that reached out to Indrani just to have the hand batted away.

“That’s not fair,” Archer said.

“That doesn’t make it any less true,” I gently said. “You don’t get to define the people you care about.”

I thought of green eyes, and of the starving realm around me. No, it was never quite so easy as that, was it? That lesson had been long and harsh in the learning, but I had learned it nonetheless. This time when I reached out she allowed me to take her elbow, and it was like that simple touch had cut the strings out of her. Her legs folded and with a grimace of pain I slowed our fall until we were both slouching on the ground, sitting like children surrounded by the remains of their tantrum. And we were, I thought. Children still, in some many ways. We’d been taught at the knee of Calamities, and those teachings had made us sharper than our years should allow – but for all that, no older than our years. Perhaps even younger than those, truth be told, for the stuff of the women we’d become had been thinned in places so it could be used to strengthen others. With my arms wrapped tight around her, I could not shy away from the truth that for all we had done we were still so very small.

“We can’t keep doing this, Cat,” Indrani tiredly said, resting her chin against my shoulder. “If we’re all born with a single yarn of luck to spin, we used up ours too young. On too many stupid fucking fights that we learned too late we shouldn’t have fought. We’re bare, now. And the worst monsters still lie ahead.”

“It’s all right to be afraid,” I whispered into her ear.

She tried to pull away, but I kept my grip tight and she understood the unspoken – if she used the strength of her Name, I would use that of the Night. Neither of us, I thought, were quite ready to allow those powers foothold in this moment.

“I used to think my first fight with William was when I really got it,” I said. “I know better now. I woke up bleeding out, gutted like a fish, but I became the Squire. It was all still in the game, even that. He had his angel’s feather, and providence. But I had instincts, and something better than golden luck.”

Indrani breathed out shallowly.

“So when was it?” she whispered.

“The day I woke up, Black hung about fifty people,” I whispered back. “Made sure I saw. A lot of what happened that afternoon took me years to really deal with. But I still think of them sometimes, even after all the darker days there’s been since. Because I looked them in the eyes, and what looked back was the truth that it was larger than me. That I was just a small part of it, even with all that was already meant for me.”

I smiled bleakly, remembering the utter silence in the Court of Swords and twice the sound of necks snapping. Two rows and two drops, dead briskly to the gallows.

“It was never a game to them,” I said. “They just died, because… they were caught, I suppose, because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. But the reasons behind that were years older, and those reasons caused by some even more ancient – links in a chain no one can see more than a few pieces of. So they died not knowing, because of something larger than them.”

Indrani chuckled darkly.

“That’s your lesson?” she said. “That one day we’ll die too, blind and lost and not really understanding why?”

“Everybody else does,” I murmured. “Why should we be different? We have powers and clever tricks, but how different does that really make us?”

I let out a breathy laugh.

“That’s the thing. The first time a story happens, it’s not a story at all. If it comes again we tell ourselves it’s become something else, but it hasn’t. Not really. People bleed just as red the twelfth time as the first. The tears and the deaths don’t become any less real, ‘Drani. The courage doesn’t matter less because some corpse in a grave made the same stand a hundred years before and won.”

She leaned back, still in my embrace, and looked at my face questioningly.

“We’re Named,” Archer said. “That makes it different.”

But it doesn’t, I thought. We’ve seen it, you and I. That when all there is holding up the choice is a story and the prediction of victory, the story fails. Because if all you do is pretend, go through the motions, then you’ve already lost what could have made it a victory in the first place.

“A choice is a choice,” I replied, shaking my head. “Black cloak, white cloak – that’s the game, thinking the cloak says it all. That the choices are already made for you.”

“It’s a pretty thought,” Indrani said. “But it won’t keep any of us alive.”

“Nothing will,” I smiled. “But that’s the point, isn’t it? What do we do with that?”

I met her eyes, once more.

“Be afraid,” I said. “I am, Indrani. All the time. Be afraid, then make your choices.”

Her fingers balled up against my side, clutching at the cloth.

“And that’s who you are, the choices you make,” I murmured. “Not your Name. Not your mother. Not where you were born or what they made you do.”

“It might not be enough,” she softly said. “Just making the choice.”

I nodded, because I wouldn’t lie to her.

“It might not be,” I agreed, just as softly. “And for all that, there’s only one thing that matters.”

I threaded my fingers into hers, warmth against warmth. Oh, there were few prices I would not have been willing to pay to get that back – and Winter’s fade was not one of them.

“Who do you want to be?” I asked.

She did not answer, for a very long time, and when she unthreaded our fingers it felt like failure. There were some things that couldn’t be fixed with words, I thought, no matter how earnest. But then she leaned forward and rested her chin against my shoulder again.

“I don’t know,” Indrani said.

Her hands returned to my sides, fingers digging in too tight. It would have been petty to wince. What I’d done to her tonight had been brutal enough in some ways that even noticing this felt miserly of me.

“I don’t know,” she repeated after yet more silence. “But not this.”

“Then we’ll find out,” I said. “Together, all of us.”

She nodded against me. A pause, as I felt her consider whether to keep speaking or not.

“I think I might hate you a little,” Indrani finally said.

My throat tightened but I would not argue or beg. It was fair, and her right. I nodded back against the crook of her neck, staying there and breathing in the scent of leather and steel and warm skin.

“I never learned how to do this gently,” I admitted, the apology hanging between us. “Some nights I’m not sure I learned to do it at all.”

“That I could forgive,” she said, then hesitated.

She sighed.

“Will,” she corrected, firmly. “Will forgive.”

“Then?”

“You took a part of me,” she softly said. “By being who you are, you took it in hand. Claimed it. And I won’t get it back even if I try.”

I felt her tighten against me, like a bowstring gone taut.

“It’s a little like being a prisoner, isn’t it?” she said. “Loving someone.”

Indrani laughed, and at my silence the tension in her shoulders loosened.

“Every time we speak raw, I understand the Lady a little better,” she said. “Why she left. I wonder if that was what she figured out: that if she lingered, she’d end up never leaving at all.”

She wasn’t speaking of being in love with me. That would have been… it wasn’t who we were, to each other. Skin didn’t change that, I knew it for certain since the months we’d taken to that kind of intimacy. Wasn’t sure she could be like that, even with how she looked at Masego – though much of what lay there was still veiled to me, it was true. Sometimes I wasn’t sure I had it in me either, to be like that. I thought of Kilian and what had been shared there. What hadn’t, too. Even now the compromises that would have kept us tied were nothing less than abhorrent to me. Not a brew I would ever be willing to drink. How strange it was that you could care so much for someone and yet find them to be such a stranger in the end. No, it wasn’t that kind of love. But for the two of us, I wondered if what she was speaking of wasn’t more precious. She’d called the Woe wild animals, once, that I’d let into my home. She’d done it while castigating me for being unable to see past my part of our story – but she’d done the same, in her own way. Assuming that there’d been anything to me but plans before I met them. Like I’d not been just as much of a stray, starved for everything they had to give. Being in love, it was a fickle thing. Fragile. And skin only ever meant what you let it. I’d never felt either of those things in a way I wasn’t willing to lose. I closed my eyes, letting Indrani’s warmth seep into me.

This, I was not willing to lose. Not with her, not with any of the others.

“Sometimes I think you’re trying to die,” she said, the words shaking me out of my thoughts. “Second Liesse… well, you’re not running from it anymore. But I figure you might be running towards it instead, and that’s not much better.”

“I wouldn’t,” I said.

“You won’t,” Indrani said, and it wasn’t a question. “You don’t have that right, if you do this to us.”

“‘Drani, I’m not trying to get myself killed,” I said. “I –”

“Your leg,” she said. “The limp. You telling me Sve Noc couldn’t have fixed that?”

I bit back on my first answer. Flippancy was less than this, than either of us, deserved. There were ways, not so different from the ones Black had once offered me. But none of them led to places I wanted to go.

“That’s different,” I said.

“It’s a weakness,” Indrani said. “And I don’t mean because it slows you down. You think you need the pangs to keep you grounded, I’m guessing.”

My fingers clenched.

“Yeah,” she sighed. “That sounds about right. There’s nothing noble about that, Cat. It’s just pain, it has no value.”

“I can still fight,” I said. “And it forces me to think, Indrani. Before I act, how I’ll act. To no longer jump in every pit, trusting I’m strong enough I’ll be able to crawl out afterwards.”

The echo of her own words had her smiling, I could feel it from the way she shifted against my shoulder.

“If you trusted yourself, you wouldn’t need it,” she said.

“Maybe I don’t,” I murmured.

“Is that really,” Indrani said, “who you want to be?”

I didn’t have an answer to that. She didn’t ask for one, either. We stayed there in silence, and for once let the world go on spinning without us.

It wouldn’t last, but what did?

104 thoughts on “Chapter 17: Cloaks

    1. caoimhinh

      I’m gonna leave the typos here in hopes EE sees them and fixes them, thanks :v

      for they stuff of the women/ for the stuff
      I kept me grip tight / my grip
      He had his angel’s father / feather
      what she speaking of / what she was speaking of

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  1. Skaddx

    So Cat can fix the leg but doesn’t cause she thinks its keep her grounded. I am going to say she needs to fix it. Black is right Cat is bad matchup against Hanno and if she can only cast one Miracle and not run that makes it so much worse. I assume her Miracle stamina will get better if she gets a name or practices but not being run effectively especially without a name to compensate is dumb.

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    1. Safi

      I think that Cat’s both enjoying the mortal feeling of the leg and weaving it as a story. There are a lot of times where the Protagonist is about to get hit by rushing into something, and their bad leg/arm/fish-noodle-snake gives out, and they avoid dying because of that.
      I’m not actually sure that Hanno’s a bad matchup for Cat with her new powers. He’s all about out-lasting the opponent and whittling them down until he can drop his Trump card, while she’s now about micro movements and a few broad strokes miracles. If Cat’s ever trying to run in a fight during the daytime, she’s just going to be out-mobilitied no matter what. Hanno has his steed, and any Named can still catch her just by being fast, so far as we know.
      Finally, with the endurance, that’s just when she does the daytime miracles, like the one with the river. It’s been established that she has significantly more stamina at night.
      On a side note, I really like this fifth book so far. It hasn’t been as action-themed as some of the others, but getting more character development and investment is very nice. Bets that one of the Woe dies by the end of the book, though? It feels like things are starting to lean that way. My money’s on either Indrani or Vivi, just because Cat will never get anything done without Hakeem, and Masego still has a bunch of recovery character to go through. Odds are that it’s the Dead King who does it too, as part of the ‘Big Boss Establishment’ routine that this world would probably like to run. (See Beating Spock or something like that on TVTropes. I forget the exact name.)

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      1. None of the Woe will die until the end of the story.

        There’s a reason why Calamities only started dying when Catherine spread her wings. In this world, it’s not actually random, and Catherine’s the only one of them non-Named.

        They’ll be fine.

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        1. It’s definitely not random, but depending on where the weight is in the story it’s definitely still possible. Catherine is very good at gauging where that weight is and how to shift it and if it was just the likes of Hanno against her I wouldn’t be too worried, but with Neshamah and the Bard/Intercessor both on the field now there is a genuine risk that one of the Woe could get caught in the gears of the story and ground up by it. Dangerous as he is, even Pilgrim I don’t think would take out one of the Woe if it was just the Crusade as the antagonist, but Dead King and the Intercessor both have literally millennia of experience beyond what any other known player in the game has. It shouldn’t be understated just how dangerous that is when it’s been shown very clearly that your opponent knowing more stories to pull from can be fatal (e.g., Pilgrim taking down Black, or Bard arranging Sabah’s death).

          All that said, personally I’m rooting for the Woe (plus Amadeus actually) to all make it through because goddamn if Evil doesn’t deserve a happily-ever-after just for once. Just one big murder family sitting around the skull-themed dinner table together when all the dust settles. I don’t feel like that’s too much to ask for.

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    2. Rook

      Disagree, I think Cat is right with this one. The question of how to win the fight is secondary. Understanding whether the fight needs to be taken at all and why it’s being fought is what matters the most.

      Getting away from the whole story mechanic thing, that’s how you sometimes have to control vices. Willpower can weaken, lessons can be forgotten, moments of carelessness happen. Sometimes you need to put a cast on your broken arm so you can’t move it, sometimes you need to throw out all your liquor so you can’t go back to it. You can’t always trust yourself to do the right thing and it’s not wrong to rely on an – pun not intended – external crutch, after recognizing your own weaknesses and failings.

      The leg is a reminder of old lessons that can’t be ignored precisely because it’s so inconvenient. So you don’t forget the reason you started all this even in the heat of the moment, so you have that reminder when you need it the most; when you’re caught up in what’s happening, when the blood rushes to your head, and when you’re angry or frustrated or ashamed and the last thing you want to do is take a step back even though you know full well you should.

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      1. Skaddx

        Its a crutch as Indrani stated, Cat simply doesn’t trust herself enough to remember the lessons without said crutch. Plenty of other Named remember their goals without self crippling themselves in combat.

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        1. Rook

          Yeah, and the point is that there’s nothing wrong with said crutch. Catherine is right not to trust herself, it’s never reasonable to trust yourself to not make a mistake you always make. Understanding and owning your flaws as just as important as having confidence in your strengths.

          Considering the sheer volume of repeated mistakes she’s made – which she’s spent the last two volumes regularly flaying herself over via inner monologue, yeah she’s totally right to rely on a crutch. She’s done quite well to own her flaws rather than trying harder with the same methods that have never worked.

          There’s no shame in leaning on external crutches. If you can’t wake up in the morning on your own, get a damn alarm clock, don’t just keep trying and failing to wake up on time with the same method.

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          1. luminiousblu

            In this case it’s not relying on an alarm clock in the morning, it’s relying on a massively loud alarm clock to wake up at three in the morning when you’re attempting to infiltrate a military complex. Crutches are all well and good. A crutch that actively cripples your ability to do the very thing you need a crutch to remember to do? Honestly if you need that then maybe you simply aren’t up to the job.

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              1. Skaddix

                I mean there is plenty of work to be done. Yes politics is part of her job but there is whole lot of fighting left to go and weakening yourself when you are going to be headed into combat hot zones is simply a bad idea. Cat needs to find another coping method that doesn’t lessen her ability to fight. Not to mention can Cat really expect anyone else to finish the Liesse Accords if she falls at any time between the Final fight against the Dead King or the Bard or whoever the Final Boss is.

                If the answer no then Cat needs to exercise some self preservation. Nothing wrong with gambles but as I said Cat relies on gambles with very little actual planning far too often. The Tyrant is way better at the game Cat tries to play as he actually uses both together.

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                1. Yes, Cat needs to exercise some self-preservation, that’s what the bad leg is FOR. To remind her of mortality.

                  I’m not saying it’s a good thing she needs the reminder, and it literally does qualify as self-harm pretty much, never a good thing for one’s mental health or a good sign.

                  But fighting-wise, Catherine’s role has changed. She’s not a melee fighter anymore.

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                1. I am not 100% certain of it, as I’m not 100% certain of any future developments.

                  But whether Catherine seeks out or avoids melee fighting is going to hugely impact the number of melee fights she’s in.

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                    1. Same applies to her being fae and getting into stupid fights with heroes because her brakes broke / because the story insists she’s the monster. Just needs to run into someone capable of killing her once.

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                    2. RanVor

                      Well, yes. That doesn’t mean Catherine intentionally crippling herself doesn’t increase the likelyhood of that happening.

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                    3. In any given fight, sure.

                      But the total likelihood of dying is number of battles * probability of dying in each one.

                      The total probability has decreased. The leg thing prevents more than it hurts, and Cat can always augment it with Night to stop it from hurting. She’s got AoE/mobility powers, anyway.

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                    4. What do you mean “doesn’t believe her”? That’s not what the text indicates. Indrani doesn’t like that Catherine doesn’t trust herself, but she doesn’t say “no you’re wrong you don’t do stupid reckless things on impulse”

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                    5. RanVor

                      I’m sorry, but I have to agree with luminousblu here. If she’s unable to control her own actions to the point of having to make herself physically incapable of doing dumb things, she has no business in running a country.

                      (Also, Age of Sigmar is an abomination.)

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                    6. There’s a sliding scale there and you know it.

                      Look at Catherine’s track record. Callow is independent and mostly safe, to everyone’s shock; Catherine herself has died no less than three times. It rather suggests that the balance is specifically “Catherine can take care of a country better than she can take care of herself”.

                      None of this is a new development, Catherine’s just figuring out new coping methods. Even if this one is high key a bad idea (self-harm never leads good places), it’s still a coping method for an existing problem.

                      That’s all I’m saying.

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                    7. Well, I’m not disagreeing here.

                      Considering I’ve taken to calling the monstrosity of a scheme that Amadeus got wrecked at Second Liesse “The Bad Plan”…

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            1. Rook

              Except Catherine job isn’t being a fighter at this point. She’s not Hercules, she’s Caesar, and Caesar was never powerful because he crushed all of Rome’s enemies with his mighty muscles. That’s what his armies were for.

              “But Catherine isn’t Caesar!”
              – Shes literally a queen. With a literal army styled after the legions. They were called the legions for half the story

              “But that’s not enough!”
              – I misspoke, she has TWO armies.

              “But this is a fantasy world, Named are what matter!”
              – I misspoke again. She has two mundane armies, a small army of named, and a god.

              “But she needs to personally tear out the Bards throat with her fighting prowess!”
              – She really doesn’t.

              “It’s still making her weaker for no reason”
              – There is a reason, and it doesn’t make her weaker. Being Named or fighting named is an occupation where you die in truth a year before the knife ever slits your throat because you fucked up a story. Catherine herself has said this. Power isn’t limited to bulking up and punching things very hard.

              Catherine’s superpower isn’t hitting a horses eye with an arrow from four miles away, not is it parrying darkness and cutting the sky. Her real superpower is being practical, rather than stupid evil. That’s what separates her from the likes of Akua.

              As in she’s good at thinking and making the right decisions. That’s her superpower. Her brain isn’t in her leg.

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              1. Skaddix

                Those are strawman. Also I am sorry did Cat not just win a battle by using a miracle? She is not Cordelia or Malicia where she is nowhere close to the battlefront. She is on the front and the other side is going to target her cause she is the enemy leader and has zero mobility whatsoever. Yeah she is not leading the charge but she is hardly back in a castle far away from the front either.

                Not to mention not all Named are killed due to complex narrative manipulations. Cat started her career by taking out The Exiled Prince by having Nauk shoot an arrow at him. No complex plotting or narrative required. Is not wearing you helmet that much worse then not fixing your leg? Bard set up a story to kill Sabah sure but Sabah would have won that fight against Rafaella if she didn’t burn an Aspect just to speed up the fight. Bard didn’t force her to make that dumb move, heck Sabah even notes herself that Rafaella is better against monsters then becomes one anyway.

                So narrative alone is hardly all that counts. Named tend to get killed in the field and while sure some planning is involved, and narrative skill matters, its not like combat ability has zero impact on who wins.

                Also Caesar would not fail to heal a wound that hinders his abilities just to remember a lesson. And one could make the case Cat has not been making great use of her brain of late.

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                  1. luminiousblu

                    The Exiled Prince, if anything, died counter to the narrative. There are stories where a man asking for a duel is shot and killed to show the perfidy of the enemy – this happens. But it’s extremely rare compared to the nearly omnipresent “ok we accept your duel” version. The narrative would’ve actually been on his side, Black says as much when Hanno calls him out by name just as the Exiled Prince did. It would be difficult to simply refuse. Catherine did so anyway.

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                    1. I’m talking about the larger narrative, here. He was a hero of a very, very wrong story. Catherine even commented on how he pretended his mercenaries were knights and how it irked her as a Callowan. It was exactly the thing Catherine comments on in this chapter: a story without substance to it, a story that did not actually match reality.

                      So he died like an idiot, because he wasn’t the heroic savior of Callow that he thought he was.

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              2. luminiousblu

                >her real superpower is being practical, rather than stupid evil
                This is why, I suppose, that Akua played nearly the entire Empire and had a good chance of coming out on top had Assassin not participated OR had Winter hadn’t invaded OR had Masego not been able to straight up contain three demons OR had Warlock not been able to neutralize a Greater Hellgate. Of those, the last two were possibly forseen but still incredible feats likely without real precedent, the first was calling in a third calamity to essentially dab on her, and the last involved both a fourth calamity and actual, honest-to-god RNG. The deck was supremely stacked against her and she still almost won.

                Hell that was First Liesse too, really. With Black breathing down her neck and Catherine’s massive library of tricks she still came within inches of winning anyway.

                Catherine on the other hand? If Catherine is good at thinking then I’m good at epic magic and Age of Sigmar isn’t an abomination to all that’s good and holy. Like seriously come on, the last two books could be subtitled “Wherein Catherine Foundling demonstrates the lack of IQ typical of backwater Callowan farmers – an Account by Akua Sahelian the Collar Fairy”

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                1. Rook

                  Ah yeah, collar fairy. The one that lose despite all her overwhelming advantages precisely because she was too busy trying to beat everyone in a fight instead of ever taking a step back to consider if she should be taking the fight at all

                  Hence why all those people were aligned against her in the first place

                  The one Catherine beat because she knew when to work with her enemies and make them not her enemies anymore, instead of trying to fight them? Hence why all those people were aligned with her and not against her

                  Collar fairy, as in the one who’s currently on team Catherine precisely because Catherine chose to keep her instead of taking revenge and grinding all opposition to dust? The one that bailed her ass out in the everdark when Catherine tried to brawl her way through, so she could have a second chance of making the correct decision to bring them over to her side instead?

                  Yeah that’s definitely a case of awful judgement there. It was definitely Catherine’s – power – that solved everything there, right? Hah.

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                  1. I know, right?

                    Catherine is a diplomat and a politician first, a brilliant strategist and a pretty good tactician second, and a fighter a distant, distant last, mostly achieved just due to storyweaving – which is a skill that encompasses and influences the first four on this list.

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                  2. luminiousblu

                    Ah yeah, collar fairy. The one that lose despite all her overwhelming advantages precisely because she was too busy trying to beat everyone in a fight instead of ever taking a step back to consider if she should be taking the fight at all
                    Did you actually read what I said? The argument you’re making is circular. She ‘should be taking the fight’ because she fought for what she wanted. Literally what’s the issue here? She had the same sort of drive that Catherine had, just in a different direction.

                    I get the feeling you simply like Catherine as a protagonist and can’t fathom the idea that maybe she’s wrong. Your argument that her keeping Akua was a sign of sound judgement sounds ridiculously hypocritical, when Akua was also going to keep Catherine around. Not burning shit you can use it sort of the point, well, not even Evil. Just not being an idiot, and whether or not Black thinks so, Evil isn’t -stupid-, it just has different goals.

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                    1. Rook

                      The point is that Akua lost despite overwhelming power because she never compromised, saw everyone as an opponent, and cared only about trying to win the fight instead of making sure it’s a fight worth taking in the first place. Exactly what Catherine is trying to avoid doing when she keeps the leg as a reminder. Catherine has lost similarly plenty of times before.

                      Honestly, I would throw an accusation right back in your face. Every criticism, every argument you seem to make boils down to “she needs to be STRONKER so she can BRAWL with everyone else”, which really kind of goes against every major theme of the serial since the first volume.

                      I get the feeling you’re reading the wrong story considering what you seem to want to protagonist to be. Might I suggest some timeless classics instead? Like dragon ball z.

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                    1. I mean, Akua certainly relies on Catherine’s judgement these days.

                      Also your analysis entirely ignores storycraft. None of the things you mentioned were random, even ‘actual RNG’ does not work like that in guideverse. What the story says, goes, and Catherine’s speciality is story advantage. You can’t see the cause-effect chain between her actions and decisions and her successes, maybe, but that doesn’t mean it’s not there.

                      Having allies to do your work for you IS being smart, when you’re a politician. Which Catherine is. Has been since “we do not kneell”.

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          2. This is a kind of funny echo of Catherine giving in to Akua’s suggestion and starting to use an actual crutch – well, a staff, to deal with the bad leg.

            There’s nothing wrong with using a crutch.

            It’s not even a metaphor.

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          1. luminiousblu

            If you can’t trust yourself to even manage your own mind correctly why do you think that you’d be able to manage and change the world? Catherine is looking to fix the problems she sees with the world, but she can’t even deal with herself.

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            1. Shit mental health doesn’t mean you’re incapable of anything.

              Much like how losing a hand did not disqualify Hakram from being the best bureaucrat that ever lived (ok second best), having a shot sense of self-preservation hanging on PTSD does not disqualify Catherine from being the alliance maker this continent needs and deserves.

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              1. luminiousblu

                Shit mental health means you have no right to lead people anywhere, especially when your rallying cry is that you’re less deluded than everyone else involved.

                And Hakram is different from Catherine. Hakram isn’t healing his hand because it would invalidate what he said to Vivienne and cause problems with someone more valuable than him. Catherine isn’t healing her leg to make a point to herself. Hakram has lost his hand for visible gains. Catherine has let her leg go for sentiment, and if she needs that sentiment to not be a lunatic then how is she the practical one?

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                1. “Shit mental health means you have no right to lead people anywhere”
                  Disagree.

                  Also lmao no Catherine isn’t ‘practical evil’, she’s ‘clever hero’. Practicality hasn’t a word to say to either her or Amadeus at this point: they’re good at what they do, but they’re certainly not motivated by anything remotely in practicality’s direction.

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      2. luminiousblu

        That’s stupid. Plenty of people have remembered why they’re fighting for what they’re fighting for without keeping a busted arm specifically for that purpose. It’s pride speaking, the idea that she thinks she can be noble and still win, and that never ends well for either side. One day she’s going to know what she’s fighting for but she’ll be too fucking weak to actually go and do it.

        You speak of willpower failing, but pain is the first thing that fades in the rush of battle. We have an entire biological mechanism specifically dedicated to shutting down pain when you’re fighting for your life. Pain is literally all in your head, it has no outside or physical basis, it’s -actually- chemicals in your brain that disappear the moment you’re actually about to die, and saying the limp is going to be a deterrent is like saying that if you bore a hole in your roof you’ll know when it’s raining and remember not to go outside.

        Rule one of fantasy, science fiction, and real life is that without power literally nothing else matters. You could have it all but some Serbian kid shoots you when your driver takes a wrong turn or someone stabs you in the “sacred” Senate or someone takes a handgun and aims real well at the back of your head while you’re watching a play and then what? You could have all the ideals in the world but then someone rolls around with a way bigger army and way more wealth and it turns out the only ideas that live forever are the ones with backing. It’s all well and good to ‘stay human’, but ‘humans’ don’t get to take on the metaphysical structure of the world and win, nor do they get to challenge people who are explicitly more than human. She can’t have her cake and eat it too.

        Indrani has a point and while I know it’s because Catherine is our PoV character that she gets brushed off so easily, it still rankles. Just because the discussion stems from her fear of getting offed doesn’t mean Catherine isn’t being an idiot and saying that literally everything is “needed”. Posturing is a valid tactic, but she’s not posturing and this isn’t Nixon’s madman’s gambit, she legitimately thinks of these things as “needed”, simlpy because she wants them. And that’s another piece onto the mounting pile of evidence that says Catherine was full of it when she tried to argue that it was all Winter doing it and it made her more inhuman. Remember, she was Sovereign of Winter back when she tried to have the nice discussions with Pilgrim and tried to spare the heroes, but she conveniently forgets all that because Winter is bad and she’s good – no matter how she self-flagellates, she thinks of herself as in the right. If she didn’t, she’d stop.

        There’s something worse than taking a step forward when you should’ve taken a step back, and it’s why Catherine took the knife in the first place. It’s not being able to step at all because in the last minute you ran out of breath.

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        1. Rook

          So wait, let me see if I understand this correctly here

          Despite the fact that Catherine has repeatedly proven to be lacklustre in a brawl

          Despite the fact that she has an entire roster of borderline tactical nukes whose entire role is brawling. Ranger’s greatest student, the two greatest sorcerers of her generation, the greatest general of her generation, a literal god, a small army of mighty that puts most Named to shame, an empire of magic light infantry, and the finest and best equipped mundane army on the surface of the continent barring maybe Praes

          Despite the fact that her greatest advantage and power has been her mental clarity and ability to draw people in around her orbit to make up for what she lacks

          Despite the fact that we’ve seen her spend the last four volumes repeat the same mistakes over and over

          Despite the fact that the entire last two volumes have been unceremoniously, blatantly hammering in the fact she already has a big hammer and that having a bigger hammer doesn’t actually solve any problems

          Despite her specifically spelling out at the end of two camps that any victories or solutions won with martial might are more frail than her bad leg, considering it immediately falls apart as soon as she goes

          You think it’s posturing and pretentiousness to keep a small disability as a reminder of past lessons? You think with all that the most important thing is a healthier leg, because what, Catherine that can run faster is going to be the edge in power that brings continental powerhouses to the table, not the literal army of legends out of a fairytale storybook that listen to her command? The one she only has in the first place because she’s a leader archetype protagonist that relies on charisma and mental clarity?

          O K

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          1. Forrest

            Yeah, no, this is quite an accurate summation. Much of book four actually felt like a bit of a let down since things just moved so slowly along and almost nothing got done for so much of it. We had Cat yet again just not manage to measure out against her foes again and again despite being the boogeyman for so many people, that despite being the last of winter and practically being a deity and the boogeyman that so many feared she was almost dying to some random mighty leader (can’t remember its name, but man that was frustrating).

            Just being super overpowered and having the big hammer did not matter at all the entire last book. Having a slight limp, and the ability to think clearly and maybe be a bit clever again? I’m just hoping this will be a much more enjoyable book than last one.

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          2. medailyfun

            I guess the point is that despite the leg she just recently rushed alone or with a small force into quite risky situations dropping on the scales not her full arsenal of assets but her very life. So it does not really help as a grounding 🙂

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            1. Those were a different kind of danger. Catherine talking with Anaxares and Kairos was story-fu and politics, her leg did not make a iota of difference in the kind of danger she faced. And this kind of danger is her actual SPECIALITY, the job she’s doing right now, the job he’s best at.

              The river cracking expedition wasn’t exactly about melee fighting either. Catherine avoided drawing on Night on the way there, doesn’t mean she couldn’t have drawn on enough to protect herself from fire / keep the turtle up should the worst have come to worst. From there, the danger was purely in how good her tactical calculations were – and they were.

              This is the kind of danger Catherine is best equipped to handle, and the kind of danger she has to brave. The kind that the bad leg doesn’t do anything to.

              It’s rushing off into melee that would have been stupid, and that’s exactly what her leg keeps her from doing.

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          3. luminiousblu

            If a leader can’t be trusted to keep her fucking cool without literally crippling herself then maybe she has no business leading anything bigger than a chamber pot. If a leader who thinks that almost literally shooting herself in the foot is a good reminder of the fact that getting shot hurts maybe she has no business holding a gun.

            >having a bigger hammer doesn’t solve problems
            Doesn’t it, though? Look at literally every problem she’s solved save for Winter. When it comes down to it what generally matters is power. When she loses it tends to be because she overestimates her hammer and underestimates the stubbornness of a nail. It’s not really said much but the other side of the coin to “when all you have is a hammer” is that if you don’t have a hammer then you have no way to deal with a nail. Someone who literally makes a virtue out of hurting herself is nothing if not lacking mental clarity.

            There’s a difference between willing to be a martyr and actively looking to become one, just as there’s a difference between willing to deal with injuries and actively looking to keep them. People applaud symbolic wounds like cutting your hair or leaving a scar. There are also cultures that make a virtue out of dying for something other than the self (your king, honor, religion, etc). To take a grevious injury in the line of duty is also considered, if not a virtue, at least proof of bravery. Very, very few cultures, however, applaud refusing healing when it’s available. There is no way for Catherine to logically work that shit out.

            “Leader Archetype”
            The “fact” is that, for the most part, whatever Catherine thinks about herself tends to be completely wrong by the next book and exposed for her insecurities or fury or inexperience or whatever blinding her.

            “Mediocre in a brawl”
            Excuse me, what? Winter Catherine for most of the past few books has been shown to repeatedly blow everyone save the very oldest monsters clean out of the water. The only times she loses are, essentially, literal in-world Plot Armor. Just because she can’t deal with the Saint of Swords and the Grey Pilgrim head on doesn’t mean she’s ‘mediocre’, that’s like saying Hannibal was ‘mediocre’ because eventually he got his shit pushed in by Scipio.

            In fact I’d really argue that if Akua was in control against the Saint, there’s a good chance she would’ve won. Best I can tell, the Saint isn’t actually stronger than the Queen of Winter, the same way the Queen of Summer fought off the Ranger just fine; Catherine is just bad at using power, and equally bad at dealing with not having any.

            >Despite her specifically spelling out at the end of two camps that any victories or solutions won with martial might are more frail than her bad leg, considering it immediately falls apart as soon as she goes
            Because she’s full of shit. Black’s Callow was won with martial might. He then tweaked it so his victory stayed a victory, but the reason he had clay to work with was because he pounded everyone else’s face in with a mallet until they stayed the fuck down. Martial might has always been what matters when shit hits the fan. Even in the Lord of the Rings there’s roughly five different turning points that come down to “the Fellowship had ultra extreme hax in the form of Gandalf to bludgeon their way through problems”, and had the Fellowship failed the Maiar would’ve pulled the plug and nuked half the continent to get rid of Sauron. There’s a reason their darkest hour is also the point where they’re militarily weakest.

            >the most important thing is a healthier leg
            It’s not the leg, it’s what it represents. The fact that she thinks it makes sense to make a cripple of herself because she literally can’t trust her own judgement shows she’s unfit to be a leader and also shows she’s a git if she thinks it’ll actually make the difference when push comes to shove. If you can’t trust yourself, how can you expect others to trust you? Someone without confidence in their own abilities almost by definition will lose the confidence of others.

            >Charisma and mental clarity
            I’ll be seriously honest. I haven’t seen any cleverness from her since her trick at First Liesse. At this point in time, Akua is a more charismatic person (and has always been cleverer, that was apparent since forever) because if nothing else Akua has the gravity and the supreme self-assurance bordering on megalomania that defines country-scale charisma. That’s why Catherine used to be charismatic – someone who was so sure of what she was doing she’d look the entire world in the eye and, if it didn’t spit out what she wanted how she wanted it, she’d flip it the finger and sock it in the face until it did. Violent? Yeah. Doomed? Maybe – Beowulf is a ‘good guy’ and he basically does just that for most of the story and ends up fine. But charismatic yes. Right now she’s the ultimate waffler and has an air of being a leeroy jenkins about her, which was fine when she had drive but these days her ultimate goal changes so fucking often (and don’t give me Liesse Accords we literally don’t know what that is or why it should work) that it’s hard to side with her and believe she actually believes in anything at all. She doesn’t even believe in her own ego, and isn’t that a sorry sight?

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      3. SilentWatcher

        If so i cant wait what she will do to herself, when some important plans fail , or when some one of the woe dies, because of her leg. What will she do to remember that mistake?

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        1. Skaddix

          Yeah I think Cat hung out with Hakram too much. But the difference when Hakram gives up a limb its for a concrete gain not remember what he is fighting for and not make mistakes. Hakram took off his arm cause he realized keeping Viv around was important. Not to mention its not like his Adjunct power set is tied to combat. Organizing Systems sure but he is not likely to change the face of a battle if he has one arm vs two.

          Cat though a slow moving caster and opposition leader is an easy kill. With Miracles she is probably the second most dangerous Woe to an Army. But you going to aim for Masego or Cat first? Masego is way harder to fight and isn’t the leader.

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            1. luminiousblu

              The difference was that Hakram clearly saw no way to actually keep the Thief around without showing him he really meant it. Hakram had essentially been driven into a corner, and him cutting off his hand showed determination and dedication.

              Catherine is almost literally the opposite. She doesn’t keep her leg busted to show her determination, she keeps it busted to try and make sure she keeps it. That’s not admirable, that’s just disgusting. If you need a destroyed limb to remind you what you’re fighting for do you really actually and honestly believe in your ultimate goal? If you don’t believe in it any more, and are doing it just because it’s right on an intellectual level, can you face the people who are even now dying for you in the eye?

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              1. The leg isn’t for reminding her what she’s fighting for, it’s for reminding her that she’s not a fucking melee fighter by speciality and should really stop trying to be one.

                See: Istrid vs Grem One-Eye argument.

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                1. luminiousblu

                  If she needs a broken leg to remind her she’s not a melee fighter then she really should work on getting her head on right.
                  What you’re saying is akin it putting out your eye to remind yourself that there’s a better scout on your team and you should rely on them, or cutting off your hand to remind yourself that you’re rubbish at duelling.

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    3. With respect to the leg, we have both Watsonian and Doylist factors in play:

      Internal to the story, she’s looking for a crutch to remind her to stay the hell out of physical brawls. Note that dealing with Hierarch and Tyrant, was in contrast in her skill-set. She had a powerful magical protector against the Hierarch, and the Tyrant’s chaotic ways are meat and drink to her. In both cases, she left with valuable knowledge and having made an impression.

      External to Cat’s intentions: Oh yeah, she’s caught up in the story. She kept the leg because that’s part of her narrative, and it’s a classic feature for a perpetual-underdog villain. If she figures this out, she can strike another blow against the story by having it healed.

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      1. luminiousblu

        I mean the thing is the Tyrant, you have to remember, is magically powerful. He’s definitely a brawler as well as whatever else he’s got. The dude wiped out an army with a single spell, with apparently no real prep time, just to show he could after he marched his own army in front of it. Winter Catherine would’ve snuffed him like a candle, Priestess Catherine I’m not so sure. Sve Noc, definitely, but they’re drow, do you really want to trust your back to one of those?

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    4. JillyBean

      I’m still wondering if Cat will end up competing for the mantle of Squire. Black is obviously in the running. The general rules of 3 in this story would suggest three contestants for Squire, and this would be Cat’s third time. And the third contestant maybe…Akua? Black loses out, Cat kills Hanno and then goes in line for White Knight (?!) and Akua kills Black, heading for his old mantle and getting revenge for her father and maintaining her competition against Cat? Or Cat kills Black because he sets it up, Akua takes the path of light (Squire –> White Knight)? Or a new Grey Knight is born that walks the line (and kills Pilgrim because only one Grey is allowed?).

      Meh. Hopefully the real story is better.

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      1. Why would Catherine be in the running for Squire?

        She’s not even remotely in that league. She was only ever a Squire because of being Black’s apprentice, and she outgrew that strongly. She’s no longer learning from a Knight, nor trying to become one (and never did, that one).

        Akua’s also still Named, the Diabolist.

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    1. magesbe

      I think she means that every time she’s about to go into a situation believing that her strength will pull her out of it (practically every fight in the entirety of the Everdark comes to mind), her bad leg will remind her that now she’s only mortal and can’t just assume she’ll come out on top.

      I don’t think Cat’s reasoning is actually wrong. The problem isn’t that reasoning. The problem is, as Indrani points out, that this reasoning is needed at all.

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  2. Novice

    Yep, this is all I ever wanted out of them. Especially the end with Cat going ever deeper into introspection.

    As Sun Tzu once said: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.” With the ‘know yourself’ part being relevant here.

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    1. luminiousblu

      Sun Tzu’s actual line is incredibly often misquoted. What he actually means isn’t that you’ll win a hundred out of a hundred battles. He means that if you know both sides perfectly then you won’t walk into a losing battle or let a winning battle go. It’s an inverted form of ‘choose your battles’, i.e. ‘make sure you have the knowledge to be able to choose your battles instead of just running screaming at every single army within a week’s march’.

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    1. caoimhinh

      Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn’t be the first time Cat’s leg has been healed just for the convenience of it even if narration had said otherwise.
      She first harmed it against a devil, then resurrected and kept smoking and drinking the herbs to deal with the pain, but when she fully embraced her mantle of Winter she said her leg had been healed by the Angels in her resurrection but restored at that moment, yet the following chapters Cat didn’t have any limp and now that she lost Winter she says the Fae power had healed her limp, but now she has it back because reasons.

      On the other hand, ever since Cat spoke with Pilgrim, she has been obsessed with his words to the point of haunting her interactions with other people and how she sees herself. She has mentally repeated “Your people becoming warped by your presence, old traits grown more vicious and acute.” at least four times in the past volume.

      And people wonder how Bard manages to manipulate people, in the Guide World people (especially Named) can become obsessed by even the slightest details and not even realize it themselves I remember it was called “branded” in early chapters.

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    1. Darkening

      Yeah, it’s been bothering me wondering where all those artifacts she made are. She killed literally dozens of heroes, if we only ever see Akua’s aspect used that’s going to be a real let down on that foreshadowing.

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      1. Eh? When she was Squire II, she had a Take aspect, which she used on William’s Rise and then another aspect I forget. But once she went over to Winter, she lost Take, and then the remaining power was finite, and in due course got used up.

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        1. darkening

          She mentions at one point that Take got transformed into an ability to make single use artifacts out of people’s aspects after she got transformed by winter. She made the whistle she used to summon the Hunt in Keter out of Akua’s Call.

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    1. luminiousblu

      From a meta-sense of the word, she’s the protagonist, but in-setting she isn’t really the protagonist. She’s one protagonist of many protagonists running around. More to the point, there’s really nothing rare about bad ends.

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    1. Andrew Mitchell

      Now THAT would be a real surprise! It would be the ultimate flip of the standard story tropes. I don’t think it’s likely but there’s definitely a non-negative chance you’re right.

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  3. Suggestions

    I admit, I find my self not liking the author’s decision to twist the focus of this story. The thing that makes Guide unique is the meta story elements. The clear shift away has been ongoing throughout the Drow arc, but Catherine verbalized it here. Unfortunately removing that element simply leaves us with a rather generic low fantasy serial. One that is well written, but in no way unique.

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    1. magesbe

      Firstly, the setting is definitely High Fantasy, though I understand that’s missing the point.

      Secondly, I like the shift. Don’t get me wrong, I loved that it had so much emphasis on stories, but there’s an entire theme of the novel: stories SUCK. Stories is what the Gods use for their little game. Stories are how the Bard manipulates the world so the status quo is maintained. If you want to change the world, truly change it and not just who’s who, you need to break the story.

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    2. My favorite story thread in Guide is armies/people/nations.

      Drow were an interesting detour, but given how utterly artifical and fantasy-only everything about their society is, I’m glad to be back to Callowans, Praesi, Procerans and Levantines.

      In Dread Crowned 🙂

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  4. Deviant Loader

    Plenty of cheesy platitude moments in this chapter, giving me bad flashbacks of some characters arguing with each other over principles and ideals in other stories and animes.

    It may be a needed moment from the actions and main story. And while I don’t hate it but I don’t like it either too.

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  5. superkeaton

    Eh. I’ll own up to not particularly liking Indrani, nor her relationship with Cat, but this was good. Some healing, some recognition, but without concrete resolution. I can’t help but wonder if Killian will ever actually be relevant to the story again as a character, rather than as a reference to the past.

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